The Enemy Speaks – Post Game Via New Jersey Devils’ Bloggers

That goaltender Martin Brodeur “tweaked” his right shoulder in tonight’s 2-1 shootout win over the Los Angeles Kings wasn’t necessarily a good thing for the Devils, but in one way Brodeur’s injury helped them.

The extended stoppage in play that occurred while medical trainer Rich Stinziano was looking at Brodeur with 7:57 remaining in the first period became a unofficial timeout for the Devils. The Devils had struggled up to that point, turning the puck over numerous times and were running around in their own end. A bad line change led to a 3-on-2 and a breakdown in coverage that resulted in Simon Gagne’s goal that gave the Kings a 1-0 lead 1:47 into the game. That the score was still 1-0 when Brodeur was injured was due mostly to Brodeur’s play. In fact, he was injured after a flurry of shots while the Devils were scrambling in the defensive zone and unable to clear the puck.

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This game started off sloppy, the Devils giving up a goal to Simon Gagne just 1:47 into the first period. Then Marty Brodeur went down to an apparent shoulder injury and required medical attention (though he did remain in the game). And then, the Devils took off. Patrick Elias tied the game up at 1 at 13:03 in the first. Devils closed out the first strong, tacking on 15 shots to the Kings 11. Brodeur would not take the ice in the second period; Johan “Moose” Hedberg would relieve him in goal. Hedberg, making his second appearance of the season (1 start) was absolutely fantastic, stopping all 16 shots he faced tonight. Good sign for the Devils was that Brodeur watch the game from the bench, a positive sign that his injury was not too serious. The Devils and Kings would remained tied all through regulation. Both team failed to score in a sudden death overtime period which led to a shootout. This would be the first Devils shootout of the season; For the Kings, their 2nd. The Devils would elect to shoot first, and sent Ilya Kovachuk to lead off. He would score. So did Parise in the Devils second attempt. Hedberg stopped both Kings’ shots. And the Devils won, 2-1.

Read More @ Pucks & Pitchforks

As you’ve probably surmised from the title, the Devils won their first OT contest of the season (a shootout) against the LA Kings. It’s nice to know that the Devils can perform well enough 4 on 4 and in a shootout to eek out a victory, but, in my opinion, this game should have never made it past regulation. After the Kings scored 1:47 into the 1st period, the Devils played an outstanding hockey game. They controlled the puck for almost the entire 2nd half. Of course they weren’t able to score more than one goal in regulation (and that was a Patrik Elias tally in the 1st period). And that’s bothersome. Nevertheless, they hung in there and eventually came away with 2 points.

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  1. They should consider themselves lucky that they were even in the game. The Kings haven’t even seen home since last month, and have been on the trip through hell with so much media attention, and jumping on planes every other day. The Devils have basically kicked it at home, waiting for the season to start, with no distractions. There gonna get smoked when they play in Staples.

    I just hope Kingsfans remember to leave them love letters in the urinals like they did last time they were there. This game was not a true test of what this team is capable of, and the Devils will rue the day, the next time we play them.

    • The excuses for losing are endless. Winning doesn’t need excuses. I hear what you are saying but the team looked neither tired nor home sick. They lost to a worse team yesterday and that is a measuring stick. Tomorrow will be another against a team at their own level.

      • Not an excuse in my book. You’ll see once the Kings have been home for a little while, and get into a routine. Kopi being out last playoffs wasn’t an excuse why we lost, it was a damn good reason though.

      • Your right Bobby. And I think Northstar’s critique of the Sabers game covered the Kings pretty well.

        How good/bad is NJ?

        Past the 1st line NJ is so thin that Kovalchuck was forced to skate for 28 minutes.

        Did their 4th line even skate?

        There were so many empty seats the nose bleeds were allow into Loge for the 3rd.

        Win or lose in Philly I hope the Kings get back to sound disciplined hockey.

  2. They lost to a worse team yesterday and that is a measuring stick.

    … The Devils finished last season with a 29-17-3 mark in their last 49 games. This was while the Kings posted a 26-18-5 record in their last 49. New Jersey was at home. It was a pretty even matchup going in, and the game ended as a tie with the Kings losing the post-game coin flip. I don’t see where excuses even need to be made.

    • And what was the record in those 33 games that you choose to ignore? How did the Devils do in the playoffs last season?

      Devils are also on their 3rd coach in 1 year and the Kings are stuck with their same horrible coach. Maybe a Kings coaching change would have resulted in a Kings win last night?

      • And what was the record in those 33 games that you choose to ignore?

        … Pretty obvious to me that the Devils aren’t the same team that was so awful in those first 33 games of last season, and the more I look at New Jersey’s records season-by-season it’s apparent that those 33 games look like an aberration.

        The Kings had a 12-19-1 stretch in 32 games last season. Is that indicative of what we should expect as Kings’ fans this season? I don’t believe so.

        • The point is that you have to look at the entire 82 games. Not just pick and choose sections to support your thoughts. It doesn’t matter how “hot” a team gets during a portion of the season, especially after a coaching change, it’s whether you make the 16 team tournament.

          We will all bitch and moan during the edd and flow of a season, but it’s where you finish after 82 games that matters.

          Kings were 12-3 after 15 games last year, is that the team we should expect for 82 games?

          • The point is that stats are always skewed one way or another. Perception is more wholesome than computation unless you are a physicist and using more than just generic numbers. Even then, when human will is involved, numbers mean next to shit.

          • The point is that you have to look at the entire 82 games. Not just pick and choose sections to support your thoughts.

            … LMAO. Whatever floats the boat, man. If you and Jacob want to disregard all the info and just think the Kings are superior to the Devils and just expected a win because of _______, have fun with it. You’re just overrating the Kings. Don’t worry – a lot of others have, too.

            Don’t worry, though – you certainly aren’t alone as far as that’s concerned.

          • Info? You mean info like that our defensemen are superior to New Jerseys? That both their goalies are past their primes ( one of which who hasn’t impressed me in this decade), as are two of their best 5 forwards? Info like that we have a better roster than them and that when we play like we should and have seen us play in stretches, we can dominate in a way that Jersey didn’t do even in their strong finish to last season?

            You are right that we certainly are not alone in ‘overrating’ the Kings. We’ve got the vast majority of the known hockey world on our side, experts and casual fools alike.

            For someone who likes to use ‘info’, I’ve got one for you – you keep saying that Hunter is an awful player and shouldn’t be in the NHL. Yet he is a guy whose stats have proven over a fairly long career that he can produce. You have at the same time, thrown numbers galore at us in regards to Parse, using an incredibly small sample size, coupled with a willingness to forgive mistakes based off injury recovery, to put down those who would call him an awful hockey player. How can you reconcile using the same type of argument to herald one player, while denying the exact same argument that applies even moreso, based on history and sample size, to Hunter, instead ignoring your own logic to simply say the guys sucks. I know this is a tangent, but I can’t help but get annoyed when you use stats to prove points you want to make, then deny them when they don’t suit your biased opinions, the kind you like say other people are silly for having when the stats supposedly say otherwise. Hunter has ten times the track record that parse does AND he is also coming off a season off very bad injury. Explain how come Parse gets the benefit of the doubt and Hunter is just awful end of story?

          • And Penner…

          • Info like that we have a better roster than them and that when we play like we should and have seen us play in stretches, we can dominate in a way that Jersey didn’t do even in their strong finish to last season?

            … “play like we should”, “we can dominate” – it’s no wonder we disagree, here. You’ve seemed to forget what the word “info” actually means, and have replaced its’ definition in your mind with “wishful thinking”. That’s awfully cute.

            I’ll agree to disagree and stand by my assertion that New Jersey’s a better team than you think they are. That the Kings were able to tie them on the road, coming off the European tour – I’ll happily take that result.

            You are right that we certainly are not alone in ‘overrating’ the Kings. We’ve got the vast majority of the known hockey world on our side, experts and casual fools alike.

            … That’s terrific! I’m happy for all of you.

            For someone who likes to use ‘info’, I’ve got one for you – you keep saying that Hunter is an awful player and shouldn’t be in the NHL. Yet he is a guy whose stats have proven over a fairly long career that he can produce.

            … His stats show that he hasn’t done jack shit in four years. That’s why nobody wanted him, Jacob. That’s why he was signed for ten cents a pound. The fact that Trent Hunter even made the team and Ethan Moreau even made the team and that both of them actually play over ten minutes per game each is reason enough for me to pause when I read tales of how “elite” the Kings allegedly are. Neither one of them should be any more than 13th or 14th on the forward depth chart.

            You have at the same time, thrown numbers galore at us in regards to Parse, using an incredibly small sample size

            … That’s the entire duration of his hockey career! Do you think I’m cherry-picking, here?

            Explain how come Parse gets the benefit of the doubt and Hunter is just awful end of story?

            … Holy shit, man, you can’t be this dense. Parse has played fewer than a season’s worth of games and has numbers that look pretty damn good up to this point. Seeing as how Parse is entering his prime, I’d say it’s not a huge stretch to think that he might continue to play well – and because of that, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Hunter is past his prime and his last good season was five years ago. What year do you think this is? 2006? 2004? Do you think that Hunter’s going to just all of a sudden become a useful NHL player again after four years of decline? A guy who was so useless that the fucking NEW YORK ISLANDERS didn’t want him? At this point, I’m just hoping you’re trolling me with this “explain to me how Trent Hunter sucks JT, I mean Dean picked him up and Dean’s such a genius because after all he told me so” B.S. Please tell me you’re posting ironically.

          • I don’t think Hunter is great. I think he’s OK and I don’t think Parse is any better.

            As for him and Moreau being 13tg and 14th forwards, I agree. But the problem isn’t that we aren’t deep enough, its that our depth is in Manchester for God knows what awful reason. Loktionov was supposed to be on this team.

          • Also a big point You are ignoring that is one of my main thrusts here is that Hunter has battled injuries over that time, just like Parse. You give Parse the recovery excuse but not Hunter, when it applies the same to both players.

          • I don’t think Hunter is great. I think he’s OK and I don’t think Parse is any better.

            … OK, well I will help you with this.

            Parse is a better player than Hunter.

            You give Parse the recovery excuse but not Hunter

            … I’ll tell you why that is.

            Parse is a better player than Hunter.

            Loktionov was supposed to be on this team.

            … 100% agree.

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          • … My God’s dick is so big, it has its own dick. And my God’s dick’s dick is bigger than your God’s dick.

          • Why would you admit that your God’s dick is deformed? Do his women have deformed vaginas too or just an extra hole from all the rapings they’ve taken from my God? Ok ok I get it now. My God has raped your God’s women so often throughout history that hey grew an extra hole which evolution then necessitated your God’s dick to deform to keep your women around lest they defect out of preference to be my God’s concubines.

            My God is happy with hi single, large penis. Evolution need not change perfection.

  3. I admit that I did pick the Devils to be 1 of 5 teams to come out of the East. I also picked Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, and Buffalo to be the big guns out there, so the Kings losing to Buffalo, and New Jersey doesn’t really bug me right now. Unfortunately Philly is on that list, and I don’t want to lose to them either. Best case scenario, the Kings come home 2-1-1 from this roadtrip from hell. If they come home 1-2-1 it won’t mean anything in the big picture, to me.

    Ignore the long trip, but I still think it is impacting the team, and right now, we’re not seeing them at their best. New Jersey just got lucky.

    • You know, blame it on the road trip all you want, but really it has been three games over the course of a week. They had 4 full days off after leaving Europe and were in Europe for almost a week before having to play. Also, we are in Los Angeles and there is not a year that goes by without the Kings having to deal with atleast, if not two BALLBUSTER road trips. We still have to come out on top. We’ve had worse trips to deal with than this one and there will be worse yet to come in the future. Part of being an LA Kings is dealing with highly unfavorable travel conditions,usually for the entire year. So while yes, the travel certainly doesn’t help, I refuse to use it as a reason to simply write off the games during any rough road trip. You have to succeed when the conditions are in your favor and when they are against you, without prejudice.

      Another point is that the Kings under Terry Murray are historically a poor home team and a better road team, so I have a hard time getting enthused that coming home and getting comfortable is actually a good thing when the last few years have proven it otherwise. Before this Europe trip we are all saying “great team building experience!” so now that it didn’t go our way so far, you can’t shrug it off and flip that too “fuggeddaboudit”.

    • You picked New Jersey? Ahead of New York, Boston, Tampa or Montreal?

      Last season it was the first twelve games that the put the Kings in the playoffs. I felt the Kings finished the season slowly last year the year before. They all count.

      • I did. That was a personal choice. I thought about Boston, and Tampa, but every year their are a couple of teams you think will do well, and they don’t. It’s the start of the season, so I pick 5, but as the season goes, that changes. I can be wrong right now, but I won’t lose any sleep over it. It’s still to early to say for sure who will make it. If Columbus makes it, everybody will be wrong.

  4. Speaking of enemies…

    Lots of empty seats in the bowl at the ducks home opener…

    • Damn, they are a well coached team though. I have been watching the entire game. Carlyle has a very average group playing great defense. Their neutral zone forecheck is outstanding.

  5. We would likely be doing better with Andy – the PP would be about the same, the defense would be a little more porous, and we would do some scoring. But, like Andy, Terry is not adapting, shifting tactics, making adjustments. I have been hoping he would – that we would start with defense, and move outward – keep moving outward toward offensive creativity and success, and make defensive adjustments as we evolved up front.
    Set down the rythm, and introduce improvisation.

    Like good jazz – a basic rhythm structure supporting multiple improvisations that do not contradict but enhance, elaborate and vary the basic structure. That “system” explains why a singe tune can be, in different hands, a boringly predictable pop tune or something surprising and exiting, yet coherent.

    I am grateful for his introduction of toughness, player development, and defensive seriousness and (over?)organization. But we must evolve to contend, and now have the players for it.

    Not sure what yet to make of the start of the season – some of the guys aren’t up to speed (e.g. Stoll, Clifford), but what worries me is the lack of any evidence of an evolving sophistication. The guys will come around – we know what Stoll and Clifford will bring – but how are we adapting? It is certain that we are not surprising anybody anymore. Lack of adaptation only works when we are not drawing focused opposition. But we do draw that now, every game.

    To put it another way, what worries me about the Buff. and NJ games is that we are being out-thought. Laviolette will bring more of that. And so it will go, until we prove otherwise. Even if we do, being reactive is a very bad sign.

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