Winning More Games Than You Lose Is A Good Thing – San Jose Open Forum

To Zus, or not to Zus, that was recently a question.

The answer, as we know, was not to Zus. We are Zusless. We have zip Zus. Our Zus quotient is nil.

Not that it matters, as much as I do miss our mythological character or yore, as our team suck quotient remains high. We are currently a sub-.500 team. Jonathan Quick is the only King who has won more games than he has lost, and if the Kings can’t provide him with the goal support for a win tonight over the San Jose Sharks, that will cease to be true. Coming off a fairly emotional loss in a shootout to the Penguins, the Kings may likely remain a frustrated team. However going into the building of our most recent playoff rival may provide the added boost of adrenaline needed to push the Kings over that apparently tall mountain of scoring 3 goals in a game. Since effort is clearly the problem…

Perhaps Quick can just steal another one.

You know typically I would take this time to expound upon my less than couth feelings towards the opposing team. While I still retain a healthy dose of vitriol for the ‘hella’ spouting choke champs up north, I find the luster of such rantings to be faded when the more pressing concern is simply seeing our own team win a game.

I care not for a good outing, or an spirited showing. Improved is not enough. Better is a word for losers. The last 4 games are in the past and the only merit I care compare them with is that of the outcome.

Better is not a measure to be held against ourselves, but rather to be stood next to that of our opponent. Can we be better than the Sharks tonight? We have seen our team lose in the past despite being better than our opponent. And though Murray may believe much of our recent loss is attributable to luck, we have simply not been better than the other team for over a week. This might lead me into a matchup discussion, but I don’t care about the match-up. It doesn’t matter to me what new faces are on the Sharks. Havlat and Burns don’t change what we need to do to win. Thornton is the same old schmuck he always and Clowe is still a puke. Neimi is good, but Quick is better. 4.9% better on every shot, to be exact.

The Kings will skate differently tonight, as if that matters. Parse slides to the third-line right wing, a place where he has virtually no chance of success. Clifford gets re-demoted from his regained 3rd-line role after lavishing in it for all of 1 practice. Penner gets a chance to suck with more ice time alongside Richards and Brown. Oh hell, maybe he’ll do great and be reinvigorated by skating with the team’s two most diametrically opposed players to himself in terms of the testicular. Maybe Parse will play his first good game on the right wing. Perhaps having Richardson play 4th line center and Lewis as his right wing was the key to victory all along. Or maybe, just maybe, Doughty will have his first good game of the season.

It’s all possible. It’s all desired. It’s all on Terry Murray’s head.

I am excited to watch the game. I’m interested to see your reaction when its over. If we win, do we calm down, or do we wait for a few more in a row to move the cross-hairs from between Murray’s eyes? If we lose, do we pull the trigger? How much closer would a 5th consecutive loss bring us to having a serious problem on our hands as opposed to merely a natural trough in the wave of any season? Does it matter how we win or lose? For example, of what import to give to who scores the goals? Does a win off the stick of Penner and Stoll mean more than if Kopitar is the only one who can generate offense once again? If Quick simply steals the game, is that cause enough to truly celebrate? Am I being way too morbid?

These are the questions I have. I don’t have the answers. Do you?


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  1. Does it matter if we win or lose???…let me see….Hell yeah!

    We have three games at home this week and instead of wanting to throw myself down the stairs as I leave Staples I would rather laugh and be of good cheer.

    We will see how calm we will be Saturday night after a very long week of hockey. :)

    • Of course it matters if we win or lose! That wasn’t the question silly.

      We are all very annoyed with the team and rightfully so, the question is how much does a win lessen that or does a loss exacerbate it, or does it not matter in the grand scheme of our gripes with the team?

      For the sake of the immediacy, I just want to see us win. For the sake of the season however, I want to us win certain ways. Like by scoring 3 or 4 goals, by Penner getting goals and by the 3rd line contributing offense as well.

      A win will make me happy, but just winning like we have so far this season, off Kopitar and Quick, isn’t going to really settle down my overall anguish.

      • Only one cup of coffee for the entire day so far makes for muddled brain waves for this girl!

        I will refrase my verbage (ouch! that was a strain)…
        If the team wins the sporting event this evening I will be happy but will also have reservations on my joy. Is this a fluke? Should I think we have momentum to carry us to a better level of play with the “entire” team participating?

        I agree that now is not the time to put aside our anguish as of yet. Maybe if we rend our garments in desperation as a sign of solidarity we could help to assuage our feelings.


  2. I couldn’t agree with this post more if I tried. I want a win if for no reason other than the fact that I’ll be at the game and losing in the face of those bastard Sharks fans is the definition of unbearable.

    Whatever it takes, however it happens, just win.

  3. … The Sharks’ shot totals have been remarkable thus far in the season – about 36 per game. It’s going to be a good gauge for the Kings’ defense, to see if they can limit that to some degree.

    Personally, I don’t think the Kings’ situation tonight is all too complicated. They just need to relax. Quit trying to do too much, stay poised, don’t spend too much time in the box. Focus on the little things – solid shifts, solid breakouts, solid coverage in the defensive zone, solid possession in the offensive zone. Quit making the game more difficult than it is.

    I certainly don’t care who ends up being the hero of the game, as long at the team plays well.

  4. Surly,
    I think the winning part for me doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things, but it does feel good.My issues are more system based. If we’re still winning, but like the last 3 years are just barely pulling them out in low scoring, 1 goal games, then there’s a huge difference between winning that way, and winning dominantly.

    Goal support for Quick, or Bernier heading into the playoffs is the premium, and just squeeking by on the strength of your goalies, and a couple of goals, sn’t enough for me.

  5. Ok. Then who? What available coach, with the right tools to bring this team offense and the cup is sitting at home right now, idly watching the leaves turn?

    You don’t do the transplant until the replacement becomes available.

    • Not my job to know. I do know that there are about 30 AHL coaches just dying for an NHL job and a ton more in the CHL and in college hockey. I don’t know who all these people are, but I do know that this mantra for NHL coaches that there is this set pool to choose from of coaches who have NHL experience is not a progressive enough idea for my liking.

      This isn’t even to mention the 60 assistant coaches in the league. Sure there are other things that go with poaching an assistant coach, but I’m just saying, they are there. If there are orders in place that make it impossible for a coach to switch teams or leagues in the middle of the season, I’ve never heard of them.

  6. I am having a beer. I am pretty sure the last time I had a beer was the last time the Kings won and I have not had one since. Regardless of whether or not that is correct, I am running with it…I may have two beers.

  7. … Holy balls, a boarding penalty on Ethan Moreau?

    What are the chances of that

  8. Kings already playing the “shot mentality” shooting when they have tons of time and space….:(

    I like the energy, so far!

  9. Here at Hp pavillion and my girlfriend just noticed that the Sharks have enough banners up announcing how they topped the west but didn’t win that you could tag ‘nice choke’ over them.

  10. Fuckin’ Kings.

    Reminds me of a hot chick that flirts like crazy but doesn’t put out.

    Even though it’s not really his fault right now, FIRE TERRY MURRAY!

  11. Turning the game off.


    Didn’t have much confidence anyways.

    If I wanted to watch crap on ice I’d shit in the snow.

    • Brutal. Just turned it off as well..

      • It was pretty brutal being there. A sharks fan (he wasn’t actually that horrible strangely) would come sit next to me (I was near the aisle) after every sharks goal and eventually I just had to sigh and say ‘what do I say?’

        His best comment: I feel your pain, I had to deal with Dean for 10 years, I’ve been there.

        Dean: Prove him wrong. Help us!

        Also: my girlfriend who knows almost nothing kept saying “why are they doing that?” everytime try waste fully threw the puck at the net.

        I managed to have fun, as it was my first live game of the season, but that really hurt. All the kings fans I saw looked really depressed.

    • Go have a smoke and catch your breathe. We’re still in this! We need everyone’s support. Good Karma…..

      Vodka and orange juice has an odd numbing effect. That’s how I cope. :)

  12. … They had to have solid coverage in their own zone. They had it for a while, then it went away. They had to limit the time they were in the box. They couldn’t do that.

    Looks like it adds up to a loss. They’re getting beaten by a better, more disciplined, more focused team.

    The Kings can’t afford to keep trotting Johnson out there for big minutes only to see him bring back his usual -2. They can’t afford to play Moreau only to see him give the team nothing but more times shorthanded. They can’t afford to play Parse out of position only to see him completely ineffective there. And it goes on and on.

    I guess it’s the fashionable thing to blame the coach and the usual scapegoats, but I don’t see the favored guys doing much either. I see Quick playing really well, and it’s being wasted. What happens when he goes back to being Jonathan Quick? At some point there has to be a change in the results, otherwise this team simply isn’t as good as they, or some of their fans, think they are.

    • When do you finally accept that this just is Quick? He’s a kick ass goalie. And don’t go quoting past season stats. The dude is improving, from that mediocre goalie you think he’ll always be into a legitimate great goalie.

      Too bad the team around him isn’t improving along with him.

      • When do you finally accept that this just is Quick?

        … When he’s able to sustain his play in October and early November throughout an entire season?

      • San Jose sent two men deep at the start, disrupted the Kings defensive breakouts…game over.

        LA has no neutral zone game.

        Any bets on what Moreau’s fine will be?

        Well, at least Penner showed up. Thanks Dustin, glad to see you back


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