Disdain & Condescension: Rich Hammond & Trade Rumors

Every time a potential trade is mentioned and picked up by the mainstream media, Rich Hammond goes through a minor conniption, scrunches up that skinny face of his and holds his nose until he runs out of breath. Only when talk gets to the point where he is the only person in the hockey world NOT talking about a rumor, will he open up and post about it.

Obviously the most recent example is the current curiosity surrounding Rick Nash. When NHL.com is writing about it, Hammond can’t really justify keeping quiet, so he made one post yesterday, masking it by using Williams’ trade deadline experience as subterfuge to mention Nash. Then he made a more formal post about Nash today, really just to endorse Aaron Portzline’s article in which he mentions the Kings (along with the Rangers, Sharks, Bruins, Leafs and Canucks) being on Nash’s short list of teams to which he would accept a trade. Still, he clearly does so begrudingly, as if one of the league’s biggest names being openly and actively shopped around the league is not newsworthy. Well, he’d probably say it’s newsworthy but the rumors are not. I would contend that if something that might happen isn’t worth talking about in ways in which it could happen, then no one would care if actually did happen. Read that again if it didn’t make sense the first time.

Look, he’s allowed not to like the trade deadline. There’s a lot not to like, and hey, I’m just glad SOMETHING about hockey inspires a modicum of passion within him, but what I don’t understand is why his readers are OK with the air of condescension with which he treats them. I have to wonder if Rich is aware that trade rumors are one of the prime reasons people bother spending their days perusing sports websites. It’s gossip. Without gossip most people in high school wouldn’t speak to one another. People at work wouldn’t have anything to talk about. The entire foundation of blogging would fall off dramatically.

He says that the passing of the trade deadline is to him “a second Christmas”. The circus of the deadline is overblown, I’ll give him that, but its a bonafide day of newsworthy events. Fault the GMs for the hooplah of the deadline because they all wait until the last fucking minute to make a damn decision about what to do with their teams. Don’t fault the fans for finding it fascinating.

His opening remarks on the subject from yesterday were at best, snide and indicative of a lack of respect for the people who are the reason he has a job.

With 12 days to go before the trade deadline, the Kings will continue to be attached to every player who is believed to be on the market and who has ever scored an NHL goal. That’s what happens when you’re last in the league in scoring. Rick Nash? Yes, the Kings and 28 other teams would love to have Rick Nash, but it’s not like buying something at a supermarket. Rick Nash isn’t available for purchase on aisle 4, next to Frosted Flakes, simply because a team wants him. Trade talks are long and complicated and, almost certainly, will go down to the last minute.

OK the first line is pretty funny. The second line? No, that’s what happens when you can’t ever seem to get to where you want to be and CLAIM YOU WILL BE as an organization. The Kings’ have been linked to every damn trade under the sun for a lot longer than they’ve been last in league scoring. The third and fourth lines, now we get to the revealing part. For someone who doesn’t want to post about trade rumors, you think he would come up with something more insightful to say than a line I can best categorized as “No shit.” Beyond ‘no shit’, this line only serves to insult the intelligence of his readers and in general those who like to speculate. This is the equivalent of saying “you know running the country isn’t like controlling the TV, pressing buttons when you want things to happen, so all you people thinking about discussing who should be President just hold your horses.”

In skimming through the comments, it doesn’t even seem people notice that he is openly insulting them. Maybe he’s right and they are stupid children who need to be told in a parental tone things like “you’re not the most important person in the world.” I have long since accepting he won’t bite the Kings’ hand that feeds, that isn’t the issue. The issue is that the Kings’ may be the hand, but the fans are the food and he’s turning his nose up at the chef. I find his general attitude abhorrent both in that he disrespects not just the fans but the very essence of something that is tangible and ultimately important to all of sports. Best as I can tell, his disdain for trade rumors amounts to them falling outside his box of not having to think about anything he writes or worse yet, requires imagination. Soon he’ll be telling us he doesn’t even like hockey.

Go Cubs!



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46 replies

  1. I could have sworn that on a few different occasions that I read somewhere on the intranets that he, in fact, doesn’t like hockey. Could be heresay, as I wouldn’t say that out loud.

  2. I don’t endulge in all the trade rumors, and certainly could understand the disdain. A rumor (if credible) is something to consider. Something absolutely made up just confirms lunacy when people believe it.

    Most people have it in their mind one way or the other, but some people have no concept of what it takes to put a team together, and a bogus rumor can just confirm the ridiculas, or force them to spin off it into some wild fantasy that doesn’t have a hint of reality to base it on.

    Some of it is good when put into proper perspective, but not when it starts to cause damage.

    It just gives the more questionable, and unstable fans a forum to spew poison with nothing constructive to say, and all their really doing is calling for the house to be torn down from the foundation. Without trade rumors to hang their hat on, they’d look like nothing but trolls.

    I don’t mind the talk about Nash, but because of all these vultures who prey on that, and spread bogus rumors, have actually started a panic, and those who believe it will be seriously pissed if it doesn’t happen now.

    It causes disention more than healthy debate.

    • I don’t see the dissension part, but maybe that’s because I only ever take these things as hypotheticals.

      I’m not pro rumor or anti rumor. I’m simply ‘rumors are a platform for discussion’. Crazy people are fucking crazy no matter what you feed them and rumors simply provide a more acceptable place for the imagination to run wild. When you start talking about something that doesn’t physically exist as if it already happened, you’re delusional. If you pins your hopes to highly on something that isn’t certain or may be bullshit, you’re just impressionable.

      Feeding the rumor machine is different than discussing reports that exist. Nash is being shopped, as far as the best minds in hockey news can tell, this is a fact. It’s a fact worth discussing and just because you hate people who blow rumors out of proportion doesn’t mean you need to belittle the fact that Nash being shopped is an interesting development not just worth talking about, but is amusing to discuss.

  3. I love this comment the most…

    http://www.insidesocal.com/kings/2008/06/nervous-moment.html#comment-1467733

    Sorry. Had to do it. I remember the good old days…

    But to the point, the readers are still far bigger than Rich and many disagree with him. It’s hardly black and white as you portray, which reveals more about your opinion than his I believe.

    It’s funny that I’m the furthest thing from a hammond apologist yet I totally agree with him on this subject. I can’t stand rumors.

    On the other hand, I have no problem with those who enjoy them. As you indicated, they grease a lot of wheels online.

    One last thing. The bit about ‘he won’t bite the Kings’ hand that feeds’ is just flat out wrong. He was anti-rumor long before the Kings were his employer. Here’s just one of many examples:

    February 7, 2009
    “I truly hesitate to do this, because it reads as though I’m talking down to people even though that’s the farthest thing from my intention. But there is still almost one month until the trade deadline, and this thing is already death-spiraling out of control. Your e-mails and comments are ALWAYS welcomed, but I’m going to end up muttering to myself and wearing a bathrobe if I get any more “Is there a Jason Spezza trade coming?” e-mails.” -Rich Hammond

    • :) Independent Rich > This one. Ah, but I was a wide-eyed kid once myself. That was back in the day when I had just discovered that people talked about the Kings on the internet. Before that I just read the LA Times every day and tried to convince my friends to talk to me about the Kings. I remember being so fascinated that I could get info other than the boxscores and occasional article.

      Oh, and I know RIch Hammond the man hates rumors. The bite the hand that feeds bit is in general, and I mentioned it to link it to him spitting up the food that is the fans.

    • It’s hardly black and white as you portray, which reveals more about your opinion than his I believe.

      I’d love for you to elaborate on this. I would HOPE that I am revealing my opinion! It would be a shame to write an article and forget to do that.

      Also, comment more.

      As for the post of his from ’09, I had no problem with his attitude back then, but its gotten worse. You actually takes efforts there to not insult people while still expressing his opinion, but now he doesn’t even do that.

      I say all this like it matters so much to me when I really just read quotes and look for roster changes on his website. Truly I read that line of his yesterday, it rubbed me the wrong way and I decided it was a fun topic for an article.

      • as aretha would sing…”who’s zooming who…?”

        it’s pret-tay, pret-tay funny…and ironic…that yr critiquing his audience to yrs…when you share basically the same followers/constituency…

        • Jacob comments that Hammond may be insulting the readers and their intelligence and you read that as Surly critiquing the readers? That is interesting. If you are referring to the “maybe he’s right…” sentence, you may have missed the point of it.

        • Yeah… I was defending the readership.

          And don’t you Larry David pre-tay me sir!

          • no larry david…?…no problem…

            considering that his site provides content and inspiration for yrs, maybe you shouldn’t bite the hand that feeds yr sweetback’s baaaaad-asssss selves…

            hehe…

            seriously, all is fair in news and opinion on the blogosphere these days, isn’t it…?…i didn’t take rich’s writing perspective and inflection the same way as you both have seemed to…

            in fact, i thought he was trying to show some humor and doing anything but take issue with his bloggers…he’s a reporter by nature, not an op-ed editor….

          • He is a pawn. A reporter is a very different thing.

          • Yes. A reporter has to use his own opinions to decide what questions are pertinent to ask. So there is no unbiased reporting in my head. As soon as you phrase a question you are imparting your bias. Hammond’s bias is apathy. Apathy does not automatically equate to objective reporting. In fact it often equates to shallow reporting.

          • You can’t Larry David me because I am Larry David. Not because there can be no Larry David, just that if there are two the blog might implode.

            Your point about providing content is well taken. It is nice having someone say who is on what line in practice. Otherwise most of the quotes are the same that the mayor and matsuda have. He often doesn’t get real interviews, most of the quotes are from press scrums.

            The thing that made Hammond special in the first place is that he was someone approachable that the fans had direct access to and he was able to find out info we all specifically wanted to know. I feel that has lessened and that his attitude towards the more credible rumors flies in the face of why people like him.

            We see his comments and attitude in a different light and that’s fine. It’s generally impossible on the net to impart the same thought and feeling to everyone both because we all interpret thig different, cue into to different words and add our own inflections, and also that most blog posts, unlike say, a book or newspaper article, are not vetted and edited but are rather just a first run splurge of thoughts. So in that regard to his intentions or feelings, we can happily agree to disagree.

      • Take me back to the time when the “Tonights Game” one paragraph summary was about all aside from the standard AP summaries and worn copies of The Hockey News.

        No one talked hockey until Lake Placid…and the Canadian guy I worked with who introduced me to game shortly before he died.

      • Just that you believe “his readers are OK with the air of condescension with which he treats them,” which is stated as fact instead of your opinion. I mean if you only go there to look for roster changes, how would you know, right? The raw venom is lazily cloaked as a formulated argument by drawing the readers into it rather than just laying into him. That, I could understand. Unwarranted polarization, I cannot. No biggie. We’re fans and we’ll be around a lot longer than he will I presume.

  4. … It’s cute that people read Hammond and all.

    He DOES have the right attitude about the trade deadline, though.

    In skimming through the comments, it doesn’t even seem people notice that he is openly insulting them. Maybe he’s right and they are stupid children who need to be told in a parental tone things like “you’re not the most important person in the world.” I have long since accepting he won’t bite the Kings’ hand that feeds, that isn’t the issue. The issue is that the Kings’ may be the hand, but the fans are the food and he’s turning his nose up at the chef. I find his general attitude abhorrent both in that he disrespects not just the fans but the very essence of something that is tangible and ultimately important to all of sports.

    … “abhorrent”!!! Hahahaha. You mad? “fans are the food”?!?! LMAO! Fans are fickle and by and large pretty dim; a once-over of the comments there ought to bear that out. I can’t imagine Hammond having to go through all of them without constantly wondering if it’s even worth the trouble.

    It’s like Tommy Lee Jones’ line in “Men in Black”: “A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.” There are some here and elsewhere within the Kings’ fanbase who are genuinely intelligent and knowledgeable about the sport and the team. But, those are the exceptions to the rule, and YOU know it. Hammond simply knows his reader base. That’s all.

    • But, those are the exceptions to the rule, and YOU know it. Hammond simply knows his reader base. That’s all.

      Oh, I know it. I don’t doubt it. I believe I even tossed in a line to that effect.

      As for me being mad, yes, a little. I thought I made that pretty clear :)

      If Hammond is spending his time reading all the comments on his website… well then that explains a lot.

  5. All of his “insider” fan club, think they are in the know, and believe they have the inside dirt on the Kings, and their woes and their victories.

    Constant banter by the same group of armchair GM’s or coaches, similar to this, but multiplied by 1000.

    You can’t curse, and your comments have to be intelligent, because there are going to be 7 or 8 guys who are going to try to intimidate you, and make you feel as small as Nathan Gerbe.

    “Thanks Rich” for what? Hammond is a puppet, who the Kings call an insider, but he’s not. He’s an outsider, like Soda Pop, Pony Boy, Dallie, 2 Bit, and well Cherry Valance is still an actress who I like to look at. Damn you Christopher Lambert (Highlander) and now Josh Brolin you fargin bastroid corksucking icehole, this means fargin war! At least I made Josh open the door for me a few weeks ago at Brentwood Market.

    Once, our GM is gone, hopefully so will Rich. There is only so much of that geeky pock marked complexion I can stand.

    I may be bald, but I don’t need bondo to fill in my 2Pock marks.

    Rangers are a better option for the Jackets to go after. We have nothing in terms of young players like the Rangers and prospects. You have to face the music and Dean Lombardi has fucked it up, and their aint no way it’s happening here.

    Read this please, it solidifies my opinion on Dumbardi and how he has fucked the Kings up for years to come.

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/02/11/comparing-the-oilers-rebuild-to-dean-lombardis-work-with-the-l-a-kings/

    Sect 218 Row 2 seats 1 & 2 tonight.

  6. I like Bobby’s article. I agree Hammond sounds very condescending, or could be said to sound that way, at least. I have always felt his articles were actually snippets of things that could be potentially interesting; he doesn’t even get the quotes right, much less go into any real depth.

    I think it was sarcasm when Bobby said, “next thing he’ll tell us he doesn’t really like hockey” because Hammond has already said that, or words to that effect. He isn’t a Kings fan, hockey is his work, etc. If it was sarcasm, Bobby should adopt tHe nEw sArCaSm fOnT.

    In some of the comments here, today, I see the same condescension toward the commenters at Hammond’s site as Bobby accuses Hammond of having. Let me say this: I hate snobs. I fucking HATE them. And I get so sick of hearing people be ugly about knowing more about hockey than other people know about hockey, and it happens on all the sites.

    For fuck’s sake, we NEED new fans. They will sound NEW. They are probably good people just learning about something NEW. That’s why they won’t sound like experts. Cuz they aren’t fucking experts. Not being an expert does not make them stupid, it is technically just ignorance, and for me I would rather have someone ignorant but willing or interested to learn than listen to self-inflated ego- balloons drone on about how so many other people are stupid. Try something new, and you will be the newbie. So what? Until you run into some pompous prick that has an innate need to look down on people, at which point all the fun is lost to some self-obsessed asshole stuck in his comfort zone of solipsim.

    As to expectations of Hammond “biting the hand” of the Kings, it isn’t really an issue for me. He sometimes is critical of players, of management trends, in general ways. But everything he does is in a general, topic-skimming way. His word cound alone on “articles” precludes any depth, or serious hand-biting, so he just doesn’t have room to go into any well-explained criticism.

    I do know his journalism background is something he feels very strongly about, and the situation he is in can be misread very easily. If he got every scoop, he is just a mouthpience, but if he gets scooped, he is outside the loop and therefore unreliable or late in reportage.

    My only problems with him have been from his erratic enforcement of the rules. He has favorites, he isn’t a hockey fan and the lack of passion comes thru. If he were a straight, independent reporter, that would be different, but he is supposed to be an entertainer dispensing on-going info to a dedicated fan base. His personal dislike for rumors bleeds into a similar feeling toward potential trade talk, and it robs his readers of their rightful discussion.

    • Surly wrote the article, not me.

      • I wish I could say I was playing into the post under my “skit” where Surly said he just assumed it was written by you, but NO. I just missed it.

        That popping sound you here often is sometimes my head popping out of my ass. The other times, it’s the sound of it going in.

    • His personal dislike for rumors bleeds into a similar feeling toward potential trade talk, and it robs his readers of their rightful discussion.

      That’s the nice way of saying what I said in a not-so-nice way :)

    • For fuck’s sake, we NEED new fans. They will sound NEW. They are probably good people just learning about something NEW. That’s why they won’t sound like experts. Cuz they aren’t fucking experts.

      … I’ve met a lot of new fans online and in person, I enjoy them for the most part, and I agree that this sport needs them.

      However, I don’t particularly like the new fans who come off like they’re experts, while disrespecting and insulting those who have been fans longer than they have and know quite a bit more than they do. It’s not surprising that almost all of the obnoxious “instant experts” are people I’ve encountered online.

      • You spend too much time online. :)

      • I am in the horse industry and encounter the same thing with new owners. They go fron not knowing head from tail to instant experts. Guess it happens in all sports.
        GO KINGS GO!!!

      • JT, what I find troublesome, very troublesome actually about the issue wrt new fans or ‘fans in the know’, they prognosticate what a particular players’ ceiling will be…. either one leaving (in theory) the Kings or one who would be coming.

        For whatever reason that does annoy me. I’ve studied hockey very carefully for a long time and played for about six years at a pretty decent level.

        I personally will tend to say something to the effect that neither Brad Richardson or Trevor Lewis seem to have much of an instinct around the net, nor the hands to convert chances when they get them. But….. but, I wouldn’t say… therefore no way would either ever be 20-25 goal scorers. That’s the way it appears to me based on what I’ve seen. But do I know that? No, I don’t know it.

        It’s subtle, but I do see a difference between someone saying it appears to them that…. and saying ‘this is the guy’s ceiling’ – full stop.

        • JT, what I find troublesome, very troublesome actually about the issue wrt new fans or ‘fans in the know’, they prognosticate what a particular players’ ceiling will be…. either one leaving (in theory) the Kings or one who would be coming.

          … In the past offseason when the Richards trade went down, I remember people saying then (and some saying now) that Mike Richards was Brayden Schenn’s absolute ceiling as a player, and I remember thinking exactly what you’re talking about. It annoyed the hell out of me.

          One of the great things about sports – probably the greatest thing about them – is that we never really know until the games are played. Even people who get paid to evaluate talent miss some guys here and there. Steve Duchesne, one of the best offensive defensemen in Kings’ history, was never even drafted. Luc Robitaille went 171st. Rob Blake went 70th. And that’s with the pros, never mind some fan who posts on some chickenshit hockey website. No one knows.

          We can try to come up with formulas based on what we’ve seen to attempt a projection or an estimate, but anyone who takes the time to consider the probabilities automatically knows he’ll be very fortunate to even come close to what actually ends up happening.

          I’ve studied hockey very carefully for a long time and played for about six years at a pretty decent level.

          … I prefer not to talk about it, but I played for years, as well. I don’t like seeing people who have played belittling others who haven’t played, and using the fact that they played the game as some trump card in a debate. I know several people who’ve never played hockey, in fact have never even skated before, who understand hockey better than 90% of the people I’ve met who HAVE played. Like you and I, they are students of the game.

          When you think about it, we’re all sitting here talking about NHL hockey when none of us have ever played hockey at the NHL level or understood what goes on with players and a team at that level. We don’t really know their level of commitment, or determination, or work ethic – and that’s why I don’t really like to comment on these things. I have to assume that if someone worked hard enough to make and stay in the NHL, there has to be a pretty solid degree of determination in that player already. And frankly, we have a very limited idea what that player might be capable of doing.

          I’ve seen some crazy stuff happen. I saw Gino Odjick score 16 goals in one season. I saw Lyle Odelein score 11 goals from the blue line in one season. I saw Dominic Lavoie get a hat trick once – three of his five career goals came in one game. Part of the reason I still really love the game is the possibility of seeing something that’ll surprise me; something shocking – like that line of Clifford-Richardson-Simmonds in the playoffs last season. Who could have expected that? That’s what makes it fun.

          • Yeah JT. Absolutely. And this is gonna sound really crap…. but those who know me know I’m a pretty humble guy. I don’t go around tooting my horn. The games I played were pickup but w players who were far better than me, but I worked hard and learned a lot about the game from them.

            That doesn’t make me the least bit special and hope you see that wasn’t my point. Simply and solely that it tends to give one (not universal obviously) a slightly different perspective on the game.

            Wanna share one thing about that experience with you in a separate thread.

          • So, there was this old man who ran the games. He would talk to me and teach me things. But the one thing that always stuck with me was how he emphasized skating. He talked briefly about the great teams (Montreal, Edmonton) and how so much of their game was based on their skating.

            So since I’ve watched the Kings (not as much this year, but for sure the prior three years) and so many commented on the lack of speed, I couldn’t help but think of old man Simpson.

    • I’m not trying to call you out, but during the Kovalschmuck rumors, you got so agrivated with the constant idiocy in trade speculation that you actually stopped posting there for a while because it drove you nuts.

      Remember this?
      Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck, Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck,Kovalchuck!

      I actually laughed my ass off when you did it because I felt the same way.

  7. In light of this article, Surly should send Hammond a tweet telling him he’s heard a rumor about the Cubs and asking Rich if he wants to hear it.

  8. Yeah, someone needs to tell him that his snark is showing. I guess I could, but I don’t want to be banned from his site. Last time I pointed out some really obtuse grammatical showboating on his part, I was greeted with a loud chorus of ” …”

    Really, it’s not that hard to refute a rumor with one simple blog post. Then if people keep asking, instead of getting irritated, you just ignore them. It’s ironic that a guy who has to ask players and management the same 4 questions 374,000 times a year finds it so personally offensive to be asked the same question 3 times in a row. It happens every time he holds an open forum, too.

    As I said “elsewhere” today, he really has yet to embrace the concept of an “insider blog.” Still yearning for the good old days when journalists played by rules, and junk.

    • It’s ironic that a guy who has to ask players and management the same 4 questions 374,000 times a year finds it so personally offensive to be asked the same question 3 times in a row. It happens every time he holds an open forum, too.

      I read this comment 5 minutes ago and I just finished laughing. I’m kind of mad at you but only because this thought didn’t occur to me first. Brilliant.

      Bobby I may nominate it for the HoF.

  9. Well Hammond has me on what is essentially perma-moderation so I really don’t go over there that much anymore. But whenever he goes into these anti-rumor tirades he has always struck me as conceited about it. It feels like a “these tiny minded idiots probably want rumors (sigh) I should probably placate these morons before they start reading Eklund.”

    It’s like some filmmaker getting angry about the success of some shit like twilight or something.. its fluff, we know, but sometimes (and I AM IN NO WAY CONDONING TWILIGHT) fluff is fun. Not to mention this time of year its all people want to read. But when i really want trustworthy info on stuff like injuries or what have you – that’s when I’ll go to Hammond or someone like him, and that’s what he should appreciate rather than just act like a snob because rumor-mongering is soooo below his level of journalistic integrity.

    Oh and take me off moderation Rich, I’ve only been on it since Thanksgiving. (Its as if the person who i told wrote the dumbest thing ever didn’t write the dumbest thing ever.)

  10. I’m not sold that we need another scorer – what is lacking on the Kings is not talent, it’s…leadership? What is it? Focus? Inspiration? Moxie? Simplicity? tonight’s game marks a bitter reminder that the intangible we’re missing – that one piece of the puzzle that makes the vision reflect what it was meant to be. THAT is was what we need our general manager to reveal – can he see it? Does he know what we’re lacking?

  11. Player -X, you’re a mensch on the game, but while I can read a set a building plans and tell you what needs to be done, I can’t figure out what intangible the Kings lack. I bet you can.

    Tonight we scrapped with the Coyotes, we ran ‘em, danced with ‘em, but let them walk away from our house giggling because they were able to position the few scorers they have in front of the net.

    Tough not to be fatalistic about the Kings…

  12. great post. I’ve been a fan of what Hammond does for some time now, but I’ve always noticed this about him and thought it was weird and unnecessary. Same for Dennis Bernstein… they both seem needlessly annoyed by anyone asking about trade rumors. It’s like, people like that stuff, its fun. You don’t need to be a dick about it.

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