Nine Months Ago, I Wrote About Jeff Carter To The Kings For A Defenseman And…

When we landed Jeff Carter, I told Surly, “didn’t I write about this trade nearly a year ago?” Surly cursed, grunted and spat out some expletive at the trade followed by a “what?” so I let the subject go.

I found the article and it was May 25, 2011 about how the L.A. Kings should acquire Jeff Carter from the Flyers. I wrote then:

I love Jeff Carter.

He is expensive. 5.27 million through 2021. But, is that unaffordable? That is about the cap hit Dean Lombardi was ready to take for Ilya Kovalsuck. If I recall correctly, Dean was also at the 11 to 13 year range with his offer to Kovalsuck.

What does Philadelphia need? Youth. Their prospect pool is bare. They are in desperate need of young offensive defensemen. Let’s see now…what do we have a lot of? If that took you more than 1 second to answer, hang your head in shame.


So, can you see it? One of our offensive defenseman, a pick (this may be the biggest stumbling block as Philly will want a 1st) + a young roster player and some salary going the other way. Oh crap, that is the problem. Salary going the other way. The Flyers are trying to shed the salary to acquire a goalie? This just became complicated. Who goes the other way? Stoll? That could work if Philly is willing to take him. Smyth? Get serious. Salary going to Philly all but guarantees a 1st also goes. So, would you do Jeff Carter for a top defensive prospect, Stoll, and a 1st?

Remember this was before Carter was traded to the Blue Jackets and before the L.A. Kings traded for Mike Richards. The last part is important because my thinking at the time was we needed a second line center.

Before you answer, you are going to ask me if the Kings need a second line center? The answer is yes. If they didn’t, Kopitar’s injury wouldn’t have been a big deal. It was because the kids, Brayden Schenn included, are not established at that position in the NHL. We have solid prospects, but we have the same void going into this season as we did last season – a center that can play behind Anze Kopitar and give us scoring depth.

Could the “move Kopitar to wing” experiment be far behind if Carter struggles at wing or it becomes obvious he is better than Kopitar at the center position?

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14 replies

  1. You must have a really good source. You knew about this trade 9 months ago. Lol

  2. On Kopitar moving to wing,

    Jeff Carter is much more of a winger than Kopitar. He has that shooting/scoring/off-the-rush skillset of a winger (not that he doesn’t also have the below the dots skillset, thats what’s so great about having both speed and size), Kopitar is more just a half-court cycle guy, perimeter playmaker.

    That doesnt mean you cant cycle and make plays from the wing, just that Carter is the more typical winger in terms of his skillset.

    But hey, if Kopitar doesnt get his game going, I dont see why trying him at wing would hurt, as long as he is okay with it. May as well.

  3. On thing I definitely would try is putting Penner back on the 1st line.

    Everyone likes to hate on Penner, for good reason, but let’s remember the Kings gave up a lot of value to get this guy. It would be a shame if he just fizzled out completely and left, when there is potential there. What if you could get him playing again towards the end of the year, get him in shape, and re-sign him on a 1 or 2 year deal for half what’s making now? If you can get him back to 20-25 goal form, with the size he brings, too, and at a 2 million cap hit, for instance, that’s amazing value.

    This is what I would try.

    Dustin Penner – Anze Kopitar – Jeff Carter.

    That is a matchup nightmare. There is so much size and skill on that line, and Penner and Carter might be the Kings’ two best shooters. One on each side of Kopitar, could really help Kopitar’s game.

    I think Penner, with his size, playing alongside all that size, maybe it meshes. If you can get Carter coming in and adding goals AND Penner starting to play well, that’s like adding two snipers, that’s huge. And then you have Brown – Richards – Williams as your 2nd line, which is one of the best second lines in the league at both ends of the ice. Whereas if you dont play Penner, or you cant get him going on your top line, you have to use one of those 2nd liners on your 1st line, and that detracts from the second line by a great deal.

    I think you really have to take one more shot at getting Penner going if you’re the Kings. He’s a wild card that could really help you if he gets going.

  4. or it becomes obvious he is better than Kopitar at the center position?

    … Hahahahaha no.

  5. I remember the post Bobby ..I was paying attention:)
    GO KINGS GO!!!

  6. Scribe, all I wanna do now is stake you out to an anthill and pour honey on your dick.

  7. So what are the lines going to be now?

    Brown needs to stay on the 2nd line with Richards or maybe even be dropped to the 3rd line.
    1st line: Williams/Kopitar/Nolan
    2nd line:King/Richards/Carter
    3rd line: Clifford/Stoll/Brown
    4th line Penner/Fraser/Lewis

    In theory each line has: a true center, a go to the net big body and some speed with scoring touch.
    What do you think?

  8. How about trading Brown, Penner and Loktionov for Jokinen and Giordano?

  9. Or Brown, Penner and Loktionov for Subban, Cole and Moen from Montreal?

  10. Or Brown, Penner and Bernier to Washington for Neuvirth, Laich and Ward?


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