San Jose Beats Kings 6-5. Grab A Beer. We’ll Be A While…

It’s not my custom to grab a beer once I get home at 11:45 after a game. Typically, I walk around the house, unwind and go to bed. Tonight, that won’t happen. I know I won’t have a voice tomorrow. Between now and sunrise, I won’t have much sleep either. If you can’t sleep and can’t talk, might as well have a drink. My thoughts are not sequential right now so forgive the slash skating style of this post game.

I know you want to talk about Ryane Clowe and his play of the puck from the bench. We will. I will save that for last. Let’s talk about the game.

We didn’t lose this game because of the officiating. We lost because we played San Jose’s game. The Sharks are a piss poor defensive club. They want to run and gun. They want the game wide open. If you play a hard and physical game against them, punish them along the boards, play disciplined and stay out of the box and clamp down defensively, the opportunities will come on offense. They are undisciplined, take unnecessary risks, have players who are reckless and a goaltender who loves to give up rebounds. But when you play that precise game against them, they will beat you more often than not. That is because, offensively, the San Jose Sharks are a confident and talented club. While we dominated them in the first, we didn’t set the tone. Instead, similar to the playoffs last season, we tried to beat them at their own game. That’s hard to do for 60 minutes when our L.A. Kings are built for something different.

I have told Jacob, told you and will write again that the L.A. Kings will live and die on special teams. The powerplay and penalty kill will win or lose games for us. I don’t think Jonathan Quick wants to see a couple of the goals he gave up tonight. He was “off.” I know he has been a Vezina caliber goalie all season and 3 of the goals against him were very tough to stop but, as Surly wrote in the pregame, it’s “now”  time. That means Quick is as good as his last game and what he did before means nothing to our future. That is where greatness comes into play. There will be pressure. I hope he focuses and realizes the moment before him that is his to define.

Drew Doughty. I just shake my head. I didn’t know we paid $7 million per season for a sometimes great, mostly average offensive defenseman. I wonder if Dean Lombardi knew what he was buying before he paid above retail.

Justin Williams, Anze Kopitar, Dustin Brown, Trevor Lewis, Willie Mitchell, Matt Greene, and Alec Martinez have all elevated their game and are already playing playoff hockey. I hope to see the rest of the team catch up to them. I am falling in love with Jordan Nolan but think he is miscast as a 4th line wing. I don’t know when Dwight King “Kong” developed hockey sense but the kid has it.

We’re tied for first. The winner of Saturday’s game likely takes the division, depending on what the Coyotes do against St. Louis tomorrow. This is exactly how it should be. If the L.A. Kings cannot rise to the occasion and win the last game of the season to win the division, then how the hell are they ready to win a game 7 in the playoffs? You want a test? This is a test of all tests if you ask me and it’s the test that will test our acumen for the big test when it comes. It’s pass or fail. There are no grades and there is no scale.

To Ryane Clowe and his conduct. For those who missed it, Ryane Clowe played the puck from the bench during a Kings’ offensive drive. Here is a photo.

Ryane Clowe Playing The Puck From The Bench

First, a story. My darkest moment as an L.A. Kings fan was the exact minute Marty McSorley received a penalty for using an illegal stick. I will never forget it because I lived it in slow motion. I will never forget exactly where I was, what I was doing and how I felt. It cost us the Stanley Cup. Anyone who says different wasn’t paying attention. I have heard Wayne Gretzky slapped or decked McSorley in the locker room after that game. I don’t know if that is true but it would not surprise me if that did happen. I bring that incident up because Marty McSorley became dead to me in that instant. I was upset because he cost us that game and the series but I was just as upset that an L.A. Kings player, a player on my team, would do such a thing. I was embarrassed. I have never forgiven him, the fact he is a pompous prick in person aside, and I cannot bring myself to do so.

I am not angry that Ryane Clowe did what he did. In fact, it confirms for me what I believed Ryane Clowe to really be. A maggot. A player who does such a thing has no honor. He has no respect for the game. He is the same player that will intentionally injure another to gain an advantage. He is the kind of player that will betray his team and teammates, cares little about the fans and has zero integrity. That is what Ryane Clowe is and what he showed himself to be as a member of the San Jose Sharks tonight. It doesn’t matter that he is a good hockey player. Sean Avery was a good hockey player but neither Avery or Clowe are professionals. The penalty that should have been called is unsportsmanlike conduct. That is exactly what Ryane Clowe is. Unsportsman. He won’t hang his head in shame but San Jose Sharks fans should and so should his teammates, coach and the executives. They should because that miscreant represents their franchise. If Sharks fans are not embarrassed by his conduct, then I am embarrassed for them and loathe calling them fellow hockey fans.

The big game is Saturday. Rest up your lungs. I hope I have a voice. We will define the moment.

GO KINGS!



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69 replies

  1. He’s worse than Steve Ott.

  2. I don’t mind pests. Getting under someone’s skin is an art form unto itself. It takes a lack of resolve on the part f your target as much as it does your offense towards them.

    But Clowe is a blatant, flat out, no redeeming value cheater. I’ve never been more disgusted by a hockey player.

    That said, the Kings third period play embarrassed me.

  3. Yeah, the new King offensive conversion has to be throttled with composure and smarts. As this new higher octane offensive game is blossoming they have to execute good defensive tiempo.
    I will give them a free pass for now but the guys have to quickly adjust to safe and sound hockey that they control.
    They gave up some bad penalties resulting from excessive emotions.
    Quick gets too careless in his behind the net antics. He gave them a power play that bit him.
    I am really, really uptight on soft and ineffective Penner. We are losing offense because the guy is a zombie and floating around aimlessly. He is hurting the team and it is so obvious.
    Sutter should have settled his team down. If Sutter needs to wake up and keep his team on the game plan.
    How that Clowe bench puck tip was missed is insane because all eyes should be watching the puck. That was gross referee negligence.
    Still the Kings showed great character to get their 5th goal to save the point. All great teams must have come back qualities.
    Anyway, they can walk tall and play a great game Sat night to get all the poker chips on the table.

  4. Officiating didn’t kill this game for the Kings, it was the three dumb ass penalties taken by Quick, Scuderi, and Kopitar that allowed San Jose to get their foot back in the door. To be honest, this game reminded me a great deal of our games against San Jose in the playoffs last postseason. The Kings offense/powerplay picked up, but the defense/penalty kill went to shit. Game 4, anyone?

    • True. The Kings wanted this game so badly they gave it away like a drunk dropping money all over the bar.
      You win a lot of hockey games by being clever and frustrating against the opponent.
      SJ screwed up lot too. They were sloppy and fumbling. I am glad they could not shoot straight on open nets.
      It was too wacky of a game and one the Kings almost had, such as Brown missing that goal from the toe save at the last split second. Maybe both teams just went wild as they learned about the Stars loss.
      Sat night should be a lot different and the Kings look very ready to make amends.

    • I don’t know how you can call Kopi’s a legit penalty. His stick lightly tapped the back of the Shark’s leg. That was no trip.

      • I understand what you’re saying, but, anytime someone trips or loses their balance, and your stick is near their skates or ankles, you’re probably going to get called for it.

  5. Felt the same way about Clowe. Yeah thats a POS move. WTF in hell was that? Says all you need to know about the guy a maggot.

    I agree we fell into the trap of playing their game. TM used to say you can’t get into a track meet with them. Same thing happened last year. On the other hand I like the way our offense was workin. Its great to see it uncaged, firing on all cylinders, flying into the zone.
    If they can keep that going but clamp down on the Sharks coming back at us, then we’d have a good balance.

  6. Havlat gives us the finger
    Clowe cheats
    Thornton beats on Doughty who has never fought

    Gee, I didn’t know the Sharks locker room was filled with suck fuckstains.

    • Really? which rivalry have you been watching the last few years, then? The Sharks have gotten comfortable at the top, and its been apparent for the last couple years now that the Kings would inherit the throne as they continued to build and the Sharks began to decline. Now it is happening, and the Sharks are reacting like a 2 year old having a favorite toy taken away.

      They are afraid of the Kings. They are afraid of next year. They see a team with a good defense and a probable Vezina goalie, so good they are competing for the division despite a non-existent offense. They also see that whatever led to the disappearance of scoring has been fixed. The Sharks are doing the math, and the math is simple: World class defense + newly emerging offense = We can’t beat them fairly anymore.

      I sense that tomorrows game will get nasty. Not undisciplined, just….mean. The boys are going to be angry and they will want to taste shark blood. They will show up with a mindset of unadulterated punishment. The punishment of faces hitting plexiglass and rubber hitting twine.

      And for fuck’s sake, is there somebody we can put on the ice, without risking the game on Westgarth, who is able to redecorate that goons’ face?

  7. What’s disgusting is Ryan Clowe can be quoted as saying what he liked about his teams play tonight was their character. This coming from a guy who shows no character by disrespecting the game with such a dispicable act. I wish it was something that could draw a suspension. The fact that no official on the ice is probably just as bad. I might not allow any of them to referee a game in the playoffs if it was up to me. Fucking disgusting!

  8. Well said Bobby, well said.

    About Quick, I’ve said it many times, but he seems to only be as good as the defense in front of him, as are most goaltenders. The only time I feel differently, sometimes, is in the shootout, when there is no defense. Not tonight obviously. No, not tonight. But Quick seems to be good at the shootout, at the breakaway.

    Ok, and that’s great, but it’s is a specific skill, and doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a great goaltender during the game. He’s mostly been solid this year, but the Kings have played so conservatively, and are generally good defensively, that Quick has been sheltered.

    Quick could have won the Kings the game tonight. Easily. He had five goals. He just needed to make some saves, and the Kings would have won. And you know what, even without Anze Kopitar last postseason, Quick could have won that series against the Sharks, too, starting with, and most notably, game 3. Whenever comebacks happen like that, or like tonight, it means the goaltender is not making saves. Because even if the Kings gave up five breakaways in game 3, which they didn’t, but even if they did, the Kings had a 4 goal lead. Let in 1, or 2 of 5, which is giving them a 40% percentage, still pretty good, and you still win 4-2. But Quick just kept letting them in and letting them in.

    And tonight again, he didn’t make the big saves. Even so, it wasn’t just him. It just seemed like the Sharks were so jacked up for this game, and they weren’t going to be denied. The Kings were the better team, but the Sharks beat it out of them. I go back to Kyle Clifford fighting Clowe right after LA went up 3-1. That was so fucking stupid. You’re just awakening their sleeping power forward, getting him jacked up, and then he gets everyone else jacked up. That decision by Clifford was so stupid, I’d swear he’s been hit in the head a bunch. Oh wait… And that’s exactly what happened some more. Why haven’t they given these guys fighting lessons?

    And why didn’t Sutter tell Clifford not to fight when they had all the momentum? Why didn’t he tell everybody?

    I honestly feel good about how the Kings stack up against the Sharks now in terms of the ability to play hockey, but what worries me is the mental edge, or knowing how to win. I think if the Kings were able to just stick to their game plan, like in the shutout win earlier this year vs the Sharks, keep the game 5on5, keep the BS out of it, and just play the Sharks straight up, they would win. But they seem to get flustered against the Sharks, shit themselves, and start running around their zone. And I’m worried that’s what’s going to happen tomorrow with a rocking SJ crowd.

    I mean LA plays best when they are almost lulling the other team asleep. When Quick is coming out and stopping every dump in, passing it off to the Kings D, and the other team can’t even start their forecheck, the Kings D just calmly reverse the puck to their partners, then up the ice, very precise and poised, keeping their formation, keeping their organization, then they get the puck deep and let the skill forwards and the big forwards get to work getting pucks at the end, maybe making some plays, and wearing the other team down. I feel like it’s when the building is going crazy, the adrenaline is going crazy, and the pace of the game picks up because the Kings let it, that they’re at a disadvantage. They lose that poise, they lose that shape where someone always has an easy and safe outlet out of the zone and through the neutral zone because people are running around, and that’s when they get in trouble.

    I also think, because the PK started off so well tonight, that it’s possible the Sharks coaches looked at it on video during intermission and adjusted their approach, while the Kings thought they were golden so Sutter didn’t adjust anything, even after the Sharks 1st and 2nd PP goals. Clearly that was a mistake.

    Seems like Mclellan outcoached Sutter tonight, too.

  9. Oh, but my point about Quick was, you just can’t pay the goalie who played tonight 7 mil a season or even close to it. I think another elite, veteran, 6 mil defenseman could have helped calm things down defensively tonight. I think another 6 mil sniper could have maybe made it 4-1 against the run of play instead of just 3-1, and taken the Sharks out of the game before they got back into it. I think that could have helped.

    But giving that money to Quick? No. Steven Stamkos would be worth 7 mil, Nicklas Lidstrom would be worth 7 mil. Jonathan Quick is not. I would rather have an A+ team in front of an average NHL goaltender then pay Quick, who honestly has not proven himself to be a true A or A+ goaltender at least not yet, and only have an above average or good team in front of him.

    • You’re crazy. Quick is honestly a great goalie. He’s stolen games for the Kings time and time again; and you’re telling me that a defense containing SOME talent is giving him a Vezina-caliber season?

      If Quick hasn’t proven himself to be a A+ goalie with the way the Kings have played this year, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

      • You’re crazy. Quick is honestly a great goalie. He’s stolen games for the Kings time and time again

        … He has played great this season, for sure. Has anyone disputed this? Whether he has stolen games “time and time again” is another matter; just because he’s won low-scoring games this season doesn’t necessarily mean he’s stolen those wins, but whatever, your mileage may vary on that one.

        you’re telling me that a defense containing SOME talent

        If Quick hasn’t proven himself to be a A+ goalie with the way the Kings have played this year

        … Quick has never played behind anything worse than a top-five defense in his career. The Kings were 4th in fewest shots allowed in 08-09, 3rd in 09-10, 3rd in 10-11, and 4th this season. I’m frankly not concerned with how much defensive talent you think the Kings have. The truth is that the Kings have possessed the best and most consistently effective defense in the NHL for four years running. You can choose not to give that defense any credit. Most have chosen not to. But the plain fact of the matter is that Quick wouldn’t have anywhere close to the reputation he does now without it.

        Before this season, Quick had a slightly above-average half season in 08-09, a downright poor full season in 09-10, and an average full season in 10-11. He’s been below average in the playoffs. And that’s just going off of the raw numbers, and not adjusting at all for the outstanding defensive team in front of him, which you need to do if you’re going to be honest about what Quick has done.

      • Completely disagree with this Exiled. Maybe my wording confused you. I’m not saying the defense has Lidstrom and Bourque and Pronger on it, like it’s a defense for the ages. I’m talking about the way the team plays. Just look at the Columbus Blue Jackets and Steve Mason, when Hitchcock was the coach. They didn’t have a great defense, but they were a great defensive team, so to speak.

        Do the Phoenix Coyotes have an amazing defense? No, but they are a very good defensive team.

        So it’s been shown over and over again that you don’t need to have a good defense, or even a good team, to be good defensively. As long as you play a very conservative style, and are okay with not scoring many goals, either, you can be a good defensive team.

        So the Kings combine a good defense, maybe not great, but a good one, with what it definitely a good defensive group of forwards, and combine all that with a very conservative, take-no-risks mentality as a team, and it makes life very, very easy for the goaltender.

        That was my point. I mean Columbus wasn’t even as good as this Kings team, and they made Steve Mason look incredible. People thought he was amazing, the next Vezina goaltender. But then Hitchcock left, they played a bit more open, and everyone realized Mason sucked.

        That’s my point. Goaltenders on conservative, defensive-oriented teams always look better than they are. Is Brian Elliott really a great goaltender? Is Halak, even? Both looked bad last season. For that matter so did Mike Smith. Only difference now? They are playing in sheltered defensive systems. Although, I think Smith may be an exception to this, meaning he’s actually playing really well, too. Not that the defensive system doesn’t help a LOT.

    • Well, you know what Dutch says about Quick….. and I’m most certain that he’s gotta be thinking that now. It makes sense, you have to find a way to win a game like that.

      And Bobby, as for Doughty….. I didn’t like the whole goings on during the summer, I haven’t liked it during the season, and I don’t care for it now. Really, how in the hell someone thinks they’re deserving of being paid as one of the highest three dmen in the league, when he’s realistically somewhere in the top 30 at the moment.

      I thought Dean should of held out and let him sit. Nothing so far is proving me wrong on that.
      I did think about his play in the Olympics though, and from what I remember, he was far more conservative and didn’t try to take the game to a level he wasn’t capable of. Maybe he needs to flash back to that and stop doing things he isn’t yet comfortable with and play far more within himself.

      • Quick I believe is a very good goalie. He is behind Lundquist in save percentage. .929 last I checked. He’s good. Is he great? Don’t know. He plays on a better defensive team than Tim Thomas so there are lower percentage shots possibly. My biggest complaint of Quick is he doesn’t always play well with big leads. He doesn’t have a killer instinct again the better teams. I think for him it is mostly mental and I have seen big leaps this season. Is he worthh $7 million? Probably not but I think he’ll win a cup at some point.

  10. Oh, and screw Clowe. I hope on Saturday the Kings kick the living hell out of them

    http://i.imgur.com/oVbgp.png

  11. Pounding

  12. That cheap, gutless play by Clowe from the bench was a disgrace. Reminiscent of the pro football coach (can’t remember the team) that instructed his team to line the sidelines during kick returns, and if possible, illegally trip the opposing player as he runs up the sideline.mthat ass wipe was fined heavily and suspended by the NFL. If the NHL doesn’t come done hard on Clowe, then they suck. No way he shouldn’t be suspended at the very least. Sadly I think the league will say that it’s unfortunate that none of the on ine officials caught it, and do nothing else. Here’s hoping that Saturday we play OUR game, and in the process if Clowe loses some teeth by way of high stick, that the 4 blind mice will be looking elsewhere.

  13. Pour a drink, and think in non- sequiters. Takes about 5-6you Gin Martinis. Well worth the effort. Did we time travel back to last season’s playoffs? Was it some form of purgatory that forbodes the playoffz? Is Quick spent? Did i feed the dog? Im not sure which one of my nuts itch. Technically did we bitch our way into the real season? We’re scorinv w/out Carter. Does he make our defense better, or more balancex overall? Does thais make him a Selke candidate? Bombay Sapphire w/out Vermouth, one more time. Nite all.

  14. So many strong and vaild points that I am in full agreement with:
    -at 3-1 LA should have gone into shutdown, shove it down their throat mode
    -Clifford should have told Clowe “can’t fight you, coach said so”. shouldn’t have given SJ anything resembling a spark they could build on
    -Quick….was average and sub-Quick. he definitely wasn’t as composed and in control as what I was hoping for. as others have said this is his time to forge his name in Kings history, last night he didn’t produce. personally i think if he went 2-0 and had at least 1 over the top performance in those games, then the Vezina would be his. now? only time will tell
    -PK was a major disappointment. the team has relied on it all season, but SJ took advantage last night.
    -superstition? Bob and Jim were spouting off about the lack of SJ shots when, oh hey look the puck is in the net behind Quick. DON’T POKE THE SLEEPING LION. you can think it, but keep your pie-hole shut until the final horn sounds
    -mental focus: at 3-1 they needed to themselves flip the switch and go into kill mode. they didn’t and it cost them the game. as Bobby said they played SJ’s game and not their own. they should have and they could have. the fans were behind them. i am 2000 miles away, but I could tell that Staples was loud, boisterous and rockin’ last night. this team needs to learn to flip a switch and dictate play against teams like SJ, CHI, VAN, BOS, etc. last night they didn’t and it cost them 1-point and possibly a division title
    -MR. mike richards please report to lost and found. for the most part, absent last night.
    -Penner. just scratch him from the line-up PLEASE. i can’t remember which period/when it was but if he was where he should have been, he would have been sitting around the back post when a puck deflected/leaked out from behind the SJ net with NOBODY around to play it. instead from off screen on my TV, high up on the far halfboards guess who comes floating into view? good ole Pancakes himself. what a f’n waste
    -when Carter is back in the line up. scratch Penner and keep Richie in the line up. at least the guy will hustle and try when he is out there. Richie has had some nice feeds, g-n-g’s with Kopi and they also look good in the transition areas of the game. his speed is definitely opening up some ice for Kopi and DB. the addition of JW’s speed down the #2 is also helping there. that’s an improvement over the Sta-Puff marshmallow man out there floating around like he took a donkey kick to the head or smoked out between periods.
    -was disappointed that BBF didn’t do more to calm these guys down and get them on track. adjustments are one of his specialties. he really needed to calm them down last night and didnt
    -Clowe is an English surname. apparently it is a synonym for ‘classless’. the hockey gods will exact their revenge at some point on him for defacing this great game. perhaps he and Avery will get together in the offseason and exchange ideas. i think it would be hilarious if the league did intervene and suspend him for “actions detrimental to the game of hockey”

  15. As far as Clowe and several of his teammates saying that they showed their character during this game, yes. They did. Remember, character is the makeup of a person’s moral integrity or what forms that individuals – be it good or bad. I guess we know on which side this team falls.
    I completely agree with the comparison to the McSorley stick incident. It was frustrating as a fan to see a player I had previously appreciated try to pull a fast one, and at what cost? It might not have been blatantly obvious, but someone noticed and it certainly may have contributed to the Kings’ failure to win the Cup.
    However, Clowe has not been punished. There was no penalty because those idiot refs didn’t feel it was important to have at least one set of eyes on the player with the puck. Will he receive supplemental punishment? I suppose it is possible. But, I won’t be satisfied with any supplemental punishment…unless he is sentenced to be caned by every Kings fan who is offended by the Sharks’ douchebaggery.
    That said, I screamed at the players last night to use their fury at the situation and slam that puck past Niemi. Obviously, they couldn’t hear me. I don’t know why not, but anyway, maybe it will carry over to Saturday and the Sharks will get their nasty, stinking, vile shit handed to them. Of course, without any cheating on the Kings’ part.
    GKG! That is all.

  16. My favorite post of yours, ever.

    Only thing missed was the Doughty comments pregame, and the predictable, inevitable result: he got his ass kicked, our team got their asses kicked, and in so doing the game was played on the Sharks terms.

    On April 3, from the El Segundo practice facility, Doughty spoke, and here is the relevant content:

    Doughty said: “We definitely want to do whatever we can to knock them out of the playoff picture. We want third place, and that’s what we’re going to play for. These two games mean a lot, not only for third place but just being able to push a team like that out of the playoffs is a big momentum boost for us.” The fucking dumbass gave them the perfect quote for locker room motivation. Then, smash/cut to Doughty giggling in the penalty box; tee fucking hee, fun fun fun, but by the way the 7 million includes you goddamn brain needing to function, also.

    Doughty aside, my actual belief is that this game will prove to be the underlying foundation for the most needed lesson this team has yet to learn. It is why we saw the doppelganger Kings last night, and not the real Kings, because they have yet to learn that there is no “cushion,” no extra room, for “little” mistakes.

    A simple icing could be blamed for last nights loss, because it led to a goal. Clifford fighting could be blamed, for it fired up Clowe and he scored the tieing goal early in the third. Quick’s interference penalty could be blamed, it led to a power play goal. Doughty could be blamed, but last night he was merely mediocre on the ice; it was his mouth and selfishness, his bragadoccio, that was his greatest negative contribution. I could go on and on, and if we miss the division title, this exact game amd last year’s playoff collapse should be examined in video sessions more closely akin to waterboarding interrogations.

    All these things, and all the other “little” things too long to list, come from one mother; bad decisons based on self-ignorance.

    Call it “getting away from our game” or “letting San Jose dictate” or any of the other cliches, it is known and said in so many ways because it is an apt description of a bad result after the fact.

    The Kings need to learn how to make the right decisions before the fact.

    • I watched till we were up 2-1, then drove to work and listened to 3rd goal. After some work checked score, then found a little vomit in my mouth. This game was a locked up up. Now given away. These games are what make me sad about being a fan. i love this team so much. when they win i win. when they lose i lose. it is brutal how emo i am. let clowe earn his own fate. a win szturday is crucial,if only for me. a r

      • If we go int9o rd1 after 2 loses to jqanjayh, we will lose. I’ve hqad mynirvana with kurt warner and the rams, enven if they had moved. 20 years of this, last five killing me. We must win sat. Igive up being being a fan otherwises. I’ve want to live forerf and be drunk the whbole time. Kings on cup, I’m there.es iwant it all and now. I want to ll

  17. I feel almost sick saying this, because he’s stood on his head all year to get this club into the playoffs, but Quick is not a clutch performer. He consistently lays an egg in big games. I had hoped that after the debacle of the playoff series agasinst SJ last season, that Quick had matured and could handle the pressure. But last night he choked in what was the biggest game of the season, maybe the biggest game for the team in a decade or more. So will Quick learn from it, man up, and learn how to handle the pressure? Or will he get rattled and break himself down with self-doubt. I guess we will see on Saturday night.

  18. Great post! Spot on. I think Quick will rebound and have a great game Saturday. Again I hope the NHL suspends Clowe. Ther are rules and safety concerns here. He could have easily injured someone as well. As a player I am insulted and would be if a teammate did that

  19. Ryan Clowe is the epitome, the definition of rat turd. I’ve got no problems with playing hard and gritty. Maybe even a little dirty at times is ok with me but to flat out cheat like that is a complete lack of respect for the game, himself and his teammates.

    What that move said to me was that SJ had to Cheat to beat the Kings. He didn’t get called for it. Imo the guy should get an automatic three game suspension minimum plus $10,000 fine.

    For the next game I wanna see that piece of shit leveled, drilled, fucked with, intentionally cross checked in the lower back where there’s little protection and if he ever sets up in front of the net have the goalie nut shot the guy.

  20. At least the Clowe bullshit is getting front paged on nhl.com: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=170443 and look, they’ve even punned it “Stoll-en Goods”. Ugh. Douchebag.

  21. It cost us the Stanley Cup. Anyone who says different wasn’t paying attention.

    … I don’t want to get into your whole post, as I know you were angry when you wrote it. This just stuck out to me as the funniest passage. You can’t actually believe this, can you? C’mon now.

    • Damnit, you’re back. I had this big elaborate plan to draw you out of the woodwork myself.

      Eh, what the hell I’m still gonna do it.

      Glad to have you back :)

      • … Eh, it’s not like I really left, just have to take a left when the mountain of bullshit gets too high in front of me.

        • It curdles my blood to say this, but Dutch is right..

          Blaming McSorley for losing the ’93 series IS a mountain of bullshit.

          I realize that after the Sharks won a game they shouldn’t have, Bobby immersed himself in a beer or three.

          But too many suds bad for brain, Scribe. Brew fuck you up and make you think like head of dick.

    • @ JT: I do. Every bit of it. The entire momentum of the series changed in that moment. One day, we will sit down and have a beer over this discussion.

      • The entire momentum of the series changed in that moment.

        … Huh. I always thought those THREE OT LOSSES IN A ROW had a little to do with changing the momentum of the series.

        Marty’s stick call was just what it was, a penalty. As Rob Blake has often said, Montreal had a terrible power play at that time and the Kings should have just killed the damned thing off.

        As for your mention of Gretzky slapping or punching McSorley after that game, I’ve talked face-to-face with a couple Kings who were in the room after that game, and I’ve never heard anything like that. Honestly, that has to be the one of the most far-fetched and hilarious things imaginable. I can totally see Wayne yelling at Marty after the game, but physically going after him? Marty would have laughed and told Wayne to find a healthier way to vent his anger.

        I don’t mean to get all in-depth on something like this that happened so long ago, but it just annoys the shit out of me to continue hearing this about McSorley. It’s cliched and it’s dead wrong. Talk about hanging an innocent man; a guy who did nothing but give everything he had, whether it was playing hockey or fighting. He was the most consistent defenseman on the team in 92-93, and the Kings don’t make it to the Cup Finals without him.

        So he made a mistake with the stick. He was a veteran, and he should have known better. He should have went back to the rack and made damned sure. It was a mental mistake, one of many that were made by the Kings (and their opponents) in the ’93 playoffs. The goal that was scored just tied the game – it didn’t beat the Kings, it just sent the game to OT. Maybe in OT, the puck doesn’t take a crazy bounce off the boards, which set up the deciding goal. Maybe Kelly Hrudey does a better job of closing his five hole when Eric Desjardins takes the shot. I can go on and on with that series and all that woulda coulda shoulda but the fact of the matter is that the Kings just weren’t good enough to win that series. Pointing the finger at McSorley is lazy, simplistic, and wrong.

        • Maybe McSorley doesn’t take the penalty, then there is no Montreal powerplay, then we win that game, take a commanding lead, the momentum of the series does not shift and we win the Cup in the ensuing games. “Maybe” goes both ways. The difference between yours and mine is that I focus on an incident that did happen which was a significant issue but you dismiss it as irrelevant to the result. Also, I don’t dispute Marty’s significant contributions to the team up to that point. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. I can accept those contributions as valuable and the illegal stick as the momentum shift of the series.

          • The difference between yours and mine is that I focus on an incident that did happen which was a significant issue but you dismiss it as irrelevant to the result.

            … Actually, I didn’t. I said it was just what it was – a penalty. One of many penalties that occurred (and got killed) in the Cup Finals. To say that a single penalty was more of a momentum-changer than three OT goals is ridiculous.

            There’s no guarantee that without the penalty the Canadiens don’t tie the game anyway. There’s no reason to assume the Kings would have won games 3 and 4 at home, even if they were up 2-0 heading into L.A.

          • Didn’t assume the Kings would win games 3 and 4. Never mentioned a sweep. You don’t see a late penalty based on an unlawful stick in a game the Kings are in control and poised to win, going up 2-0 in the series as a major event? I do. That’s really the only difference between what you are saying and what I am. You say, “meh”, only another penalty. If it happened in overtime and Montreal scored, meh? How about game 7 overtime, meh? If all penalties no matter when they occur are meh, then are all goals as well? By the way, it’s nice to have you back from vacation. This conversation, roasted Duck at my favorite restaurant in OC, good beer, seriously, let’s make it happen.

          • If all penalties no matter when they occur are meh, then are all goals as well?

            … LOL. What did I actually say? Hmmm. Let’s see up there.

            To say that a single penalty was more of a momentum-changer than three OT goals is ridiculous.

            … Okay.

  22. I am one bummed out King fanatic fan today.. damn.. you live and die with the team.. and
    today.. no bueno.. I could not drink enough to dull the pain.. and now I have more pain..
    damn you headache.. I have to drag my sorry ass to work now and will finish reading and thinking about what you said Bobby .. but for the first part..I see exactly what you are saying.. we were playing Playoff Hockey and doing well last night.. Boys were up for game.. and I am going to watch replay tonight to see what I might have missed.. but I do think the BAD reffing
    had an effect on us.. It is hard to keep the momentum up when you are in the box.. then again you are in the box..Quick did not have his best game.. he made some great plays/saves and then he did some bad ones.. I saw some bad plays by guys that have skills not to let breakaways and take aways occur…It is crunch time so I guess I am more criitcal.
    Doughty.. I say yet again.. just as Bobby says our Speciality teams will led the way.. I say Doughty needs someone to take him under their wing for guideance.. he is a YOUNG guy and he plays that way.. he does not have the maturity of JJ, and I think having a mentor on and off ice would really help this player.. money does not buy what guidance can do…
    GO KINGS GO!!!

  23. According to Luke Robitaille, the team had illegal sticks for 1/2 the players present that night. Luke, in fact, taped his legal sticks with white tape and his illegal sticks with black, so he could tell them apart. Marty happened to be the guy that got caught. I’ve never known him to be anything but a gentleman in person, your mileage may vary, but holding a grudge about the stick is sour grapes. You’re entitled to them, they’re your grapes, just saying the whole team was guilty of Marty’s infraction.
    The whole team did not reach across and play the puck last night. That was Cryin’ Ryane, all alone and by himself, degrading hockey that way. Refs didn’t catch it, but the cameras sure did. Spit balls, cut balls, pine tar bats and illegal hockey sticks are things we all know about, because they’re as common as speeding tickets. Reaching over to play the puck when you’re riding pine is more akin to driving north on the southbound side of the 405 at 4:00 PM, which is why I’m still trying to figure out, How the hell did the refs miss it??

  24. I hope at the last minute before game time on Saturday, we here “Look who’s coming up!” from Bob, and see Jeff Carter hobble onto the ice, and watch him score a hat trick with for a Kings win.

    Sorry, I was watching ’88 World Series highlights last night to ease my pain.

  25. No punishment fro Clowe…so does that mean the Kings can do that the whole game on Saturday?

  26. I have so much hatred for Clowe. I will forever boo him at staples center

  27. SORRY IF I OFFEND ANYONE BUT MAKE ALL THE EXCUSES YOU WANT ABOUT LAST NIGHT BE IT PLAYERS, OFFICIATING, COACHING IT MEANS FUCK ALL WHEN THAT
    SCOREBOARD SAYS LA 5 SJ 6 AND THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
    KINGS PLAYED BAD, SHARKS CAPITALIZED ON THE KINGS BAD PLAY AND SUTTER SHOULD HAVE CALLED A FUCKIN TIME OUT JUST LIKE THAT OTHER FUCKING LOMBARDI CRONIES DID NOT DO LAST SEASON WHEN THE MOMENTUM WAS STARTING TO CHANGE IN GAME 3 OF THE PLAYOFFS AGAINST SJ.
    PULL THE GOALIE, PUT BERNIER IN THIS IS A MUST WIN GAME. IN THE PLAYOFFS OR NOT, THIS WAS A MUST WIN STATEMENT GAME.
    THERE IS NO TOMORROW. THE KINGS SHOULD HAVE DISPENSED ON SJ LAST NIGHT, AND FUCK ALL YOU WHO ARE OK WITH THAT AND THINK THE KINGS WILL BEAT SJ ON SATURDAY. IF YOU WANT TO FEEL ALL WARM AND FUZZY AND HAPPY GET A FUCKIN PUPPY. THIS MEANS HOME ICE AND I DON’T GIVE A FUCK, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEAT THEM LAST NIGHT.
    FOR ALL THOSE WHO FORGET THE KINGS LOST IN THE 1ST ROUND LAST SEASON TO SJ BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T WIN A FUCKIN GAME AT HOME.
    LAST NIGHT JUST REINFORCED WITH SJ THE SAME THING AS LAST SEASON. THE KINGS CAN’T BEAT SJ ON THEIR HOME ICE IN IMPORTANT GAMES.
    FUCK LOMBARDI, FUCK ALL THE PRAISE HE IS GETTING FOR RIPPING A TEAM APART TO CREATE THE FLYERS WEST. IF HAD SUCH A BIG HARD ON FOR CARTER HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS AT THE SAME TIME AS RICHARDS.
    FUCK LOMBARDI FOR NOT FIRING TERRY MORON SOONER, MAYBE THE KINGS COULD HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS DIVISION WON, INSTEAD NOW ONCE AGAIN THEY COULD END UP AS THE 8TH SEED.
    LOMBARDI ONCE AGAIN HAS PISSED AWAY 1ST ROUND PICKS, PROSPECTS TO ACQUIRE PLAYERS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME STILL NOT DOING SHIT FOR THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF OFFENSE.
    I’LL JUST END PART 1 OF MY RANT:
    MATT MOULSON 36 G 33 A AVG 32G 24A SINCE LET WALK AS A UFA
    WAYNE SIMMONDS 28G 21A THIS SEASON DON’T FUCKIN TELL ME ITS BECAUSE OF THIS THAT OR THE OTHER. THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH TERRY MURRAY NOT PLAYING HIM IN ANYTHING OTHER THAN A CHECKING ROLE AND DEAN LOMBARDI PLACING NO VALUE ON THIS 2ND ROUND PICK OF HIS. I AM SO GLAD TO HEAR WAYNE BEING POLITE WHEN HE IS REALLY SAYING TERRY MURRAY AND THE KINGS WERE FUCKING JACKOFFS AND THANK YOU DEAN FOR GETTING ME OUT OF HERE.
    DUSTIN PENNER I AM SO PISSED I DON’T EVEN WANT TO START. HES A JOKE AND SINCE SUTTER HAS NO HEAVYWEIGHT OUT THERE, WESTGARTH AT LEAST CAN BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF ANYONE ON SHARKS TEAM, SO SCRATCH PENNER AND PUT IN WESTGARTH.
    LOMBARDI, THIS DOUCHE BAG HAS THE ARROGANCE TO KEEP AN UTTER LOSER TERRY MURRAY AROUND. DID YOU KNOW MURRAY IS STILL WITH THE KINGS?
    I DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CLOWE AND HIS FUCKIN PUNK ASS MOVE, WHILE ALL FUCKIN 4 REFS DID NOT SEE A THING WHEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WATCHING THE PUCK.
    BOB MILLER AND JIM FOX SEE THIS FROM THE MOON AND THE REFS ARE LOOKING WHERE??
    HOW ABOUT SUSPENDING CLOWE FOR THIS BULLSHIT? WHY SHOULDN’T A BONEHEAD MOVE LIKE THIS BE PUNISHED BY THE LEAGUE?
    IF I WERE THE NHL I WOULD TELL THIS GROUP OF MORONS NO PLAYOFFS AS THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE JUST NOT DESERVING OF BEING GIVEN THE HONOR OF REF’ING THE PLAYOFFS.
    IN SUMMARY AS BRENDAN SHANAHAN SAYS: FUCK LOMBARDI, FUCK SUTTER FOR NO TIMEOUT AND WORSE NOT USING JARED STOLL IN THE SHOOTOUT IN PLACE OF DUSTIN BROWN, AND HOW ABOUT TRYING VOYNOV IN A SHOOTOUT ALSO IN PLACE OF RICHARDS, FUCK THE REFS, FUCK DUSTIN PENNER, FUCK THE SHARKS AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ME FOR SAYING FUCK YOU TO ANY AND ALL WHO WANT TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT THE KINGS BEATING SAN JOSE AT SAN JOSE TOMORROW NIGHT.
    DEFEND YOUR FUCKIN HOUSE!
    DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN

  28. Goalies are a unique breed as we all know, where they can be idols and then bums, all in the same game. There is really no player on the ice that gets the same kind of rectal examination by the proctologists. They stick the scope from the butt up to the mouth in scrutinizing everything about a Goalie.

    All I can say about Quick, on balance, he carried the team this year to give us some wins and he lost many games as the Kings were in a funk with no goals or one goal.

    I also look at the kind of quality of save, the kind that gets wows and Houdini accolades, which he gets. Yeah, the guy can be a bum. The all can be at times. On balance, the guy
    is helping more than hurting.

    We got to figure that we are stuck with him, for better or worse, and he will be key to success in the playoffs. However, I want the skaters to do a better job, to a higher level, to win games and not have to put 90% on Quick to win games, as was the case during the season.
    Let Quick be 40-50% of the reason for the King wins in the playoffs, but the skaters really need to be responsible in the final analysis for the wins, so far as I am concerned.

    • Not sure if that is directed at my “FUCK” rant, but this is not a knock on Quick, but more a WAKE THE FUCK UP move by Sutter.
      You know, this is a way the coach gets his message across to his team, letting their goalie down after him bailing them out all season long.
      That being said, Quick has been played way too much this season, and regardless of Quick not thinking he was in need of rest, last night would have been the best time to get 2 things done.

      1. Get the team on the ice to pull their heads out of their ass, and stop taking bone head penalties. In addition, it would have been time for Sutter to question the mental toughness of this team now, they need to win games like this.

      2. Get some more playoff like experience for Bernier. At some point he might need to come in and face the pressure and intensity of a playoff game in the NHL.

      Goalies are dropping like flies, and I am holding my breath, not one King except the god damn one they just traded for is injured.

      Call a TO, scream at the refs, pull the goalie, do something to get this team to wake up and respond.

      Nobody is going to give this to them!

      Defend your house.

      Not 1 home win against SJ last season in round 1.

  29. Further proof that Thorton is a scumfucker douchebag: http://www.csnbayarea.com/hockey-san-jose-sharks/sharks-talk/Clowe-Poke-check-from-bench-a-brain-cram?blockID=684332&feedID=10290

    We need to smash them to pieces on Saturday. I’ll accept no less.

  30. I head modcoops anger with regards to Dean Lombardi. I wouldn’t put it in the same terms, but for sure I have issues with him too. There is no doubt of that.

    Look just at the game in Dallas where DL’s exceptional signing of Ethan Moreau and his ill timed and unnecessary elbow turned a Kings win into an OT loss. One point. How big would one point be right now with it looking like Phoenix will beat St. Louis tonight. Could change if St. Louis gets three goals but I wouldn’t count on that, and I would count on Phoenix beating Minnesota tomorrow night to win the division.

    There was also the game in Detroit where they gave up two near the end of the game to turn two points into zero.

    • and yes I still have major doubts about how DL structures this team….. still a lack of speed and skill. he doesn’t seem to care much for skill players and that’s why they’ve lost most of the shootouts…… there really isn’t anyone at all on the team who is money in the shootout.
      So more points frittered away. If it carries on as such it may leave the team in a similar situation to that that they find themselves in again this year…… struggling to get into the playoffs.

      Vancouver, Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Boston and one or two others dont’ struggle to get in. Neither did SJ until this year.

  31. If Phoenix wins tonight (which it looks like they will), and when the Kings beat San Jose tomorrow, it will force the dirty, no good, cheating, cheap shot artists, San Jose, to play those other dirty, good for nothing, cheating, cheap shot fuck heads, Vancouver in a series of 7, where I expect them to injure each other, and wear each other down with their punk ass play. This will almost guarantee that not one of them will make it past the 2nd. Let’s do this boys! A win tomorrow will make me happy x2 !!! Go Kings!!

  32. Fucked! Fucked up the ass while our backs were turned!

    All this fiddly-fucking over the Sharks and now the Coyotes have sprung from the weeds to take first place in our division.

    And there’s nothing we can do about it. Even if we leave San Jose bent over a hitching post with our come dribbling outa their asses tomorrow, Phoenix can still dick us by beating the Wild.

    What a revoltin’ development THIS is!

  33. “We lost because we played San Jose’s game.”

    Thank you Bobby. That’s exactly right.

  34. We have a tendency to overlook that are players are dirty just like the Sharks, and everyone else. We have to stop making excuses and know that we have the ability to win in the same way as the Blues have taken the conference- solid goaltending, (solid? Excuse me. Incredible. Remarkable. Jonathan Quick is our Manna from Heaven) good defense, and defending an early lead by grinding it out physically. I’m looking forward to a seven game series against the sharks.

  35. Man oh man. I have had my last drink ever.

  36. … That’s some creative spam, right there.

  37. I’ll say. But the asshole just got sent to spam.

  38. How can you say Quick is an A+ goalie until he proves he can win when it counts — in the playoffs and in big games? Here are his combined playoffs stats from the past two seasons: 3.33 GAA and .898 SVS%. Which means he was giving up more than one goal per game more in the playoffs than he did in the regular season. I hope he proves me wrong, believe me. But after that performance last night, my fear is that he is one of those players who puts up great numbers in the regular season but falls apart in the post-season.

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