Surly & Scribe L.A. Kings Podcast Show – To The Western Conference Finals

An edgy and angry Timmy Love replaces the squeaky toy.

Surly gets shit for yoga, yogurt and tea…and a cat’s ass.

I lament the lost opportunity with Carrie Underwood.

Most of all, we talk L.A. Kings hockey, how we got here and the coming Western Conference Finals as we learn during the show that we will face the Phoenix Coyotes.

Enjoy.

Surly & Scribe L.A. Kings Podcast Show For 5-7-12



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  1. I look forward to these podcasts every week.

    Thanks fellas, and GO KINGS GO!!!

  2. Woo it’s finally here!
    Quick question.. In the future will you be accepting questions from readers again? Good stuff fellas

    • Yes. I keep forgetting to ask. We generally don’t start thinking about the podcast until the day of the show…and sometimes after we start, like tonight :)

  3. Good podcast. Timmy was on his shit tonight, gotta say I was impressed… although glad the squeak toy made an appearance.

    Bring on those fucking Coyotes. #invadephoenix (invade glendale?)

  4. Bryz is the only thing that has kept the Devils from blowing out the Flyers. He’s a pretty damn good goalie (not worth is contract imo) but he’s kind of a headcase.

  5. The is the Kings-Coyotes Conference Clash!

  6. We are fucked

  7. All in all, a good ‘cast. Hadn’t heard Timmy before….but his presence added a nice balance…you just couldn’t leave the squeak toy alone, could you Scribe? With all your talk of wood and such, I worry that the squeak toy has multiple contagious diseases. Surly….your preoccupation with both human and cat assholes is a little frightening…but it does make me want to hear the cat fucking the squeak toy…each to their own….FUCK UP THE COYOTES! KINGS in 6…..What the fuck kind of name is Yandel?

  8. Crombeen is slang for vaginal warts in Lithuanian.

  9. … Don’t mind all the talk about the Gretzky days here, at all. NBC’s job (as well as the job of every non-L.A. media outlet) is to try and appeal to the casual fans, the non-fans. Building a backstory is a tried and true method of getting their attention – hell, it worked for me back in the 80s. Problem is, the Kings’ recent history isn’t exactly compelling, and when I say “recent history”, I mean the last 18-19 years.

    The last time the Kings were a relevant team, the greatest and most recognizable player in hockey history was leading their charge. I don’t blame NBC or other media outlets for recalling those days. They were good days, and it makes for a great story.

    • But to King fans the Deadmarsh-Palffy-second era of Luc were very relavent, even if short lived. That was a fantastic team struck down by injuries and then years of bungled management. Talk about how this is the first time there is an air of something special hovering around the team that there hasn’t been since Deadmarsh. Obviously that team never got as close as Gretzky’s did, but its still worth mentioning and makes for a compelling storyline, PARTICULARLY since Brown and Deadmarsh are so similar in a sense.

      • But to King fans the Deadmarsh-Palffy-second era of Luc were very relavent, even if short lived.

        … Yes. Relevant to US. But, let’s face it, narratives and backstories center around results, and that team (as good as it was from 1999-02) won just one playoff round. Is that a compelling storyline, if you don’t know the history of the team? Not really; or certainly not as compelling as “The Almighty #99 drags the Kings to the Cup Final by force of will”.

        Let’s say I didn’t know the St. Louis Blues’ history. Would a storyline centering around the days of Pronger and the Slovak Pack be as compelling as the Hull & Oates days? No way.

        Brown and Deadmarsh, so similar? Hmmmm. Perhaps if you elevate Deadmarsh’s game skill-wise, add some more hitting, and take away fighting, they are.

        • Look I understand lazy journalism. I get it. LA Kings = Gretzky. That does not mean I have to enjoy hearing about it all the fucking time. I, for one, am way more interested in Luc Robitaille than Gretzky. Why not a story on Luc’s transition from the ice to the front office and his emotions now with this playoff run versus the others. After all, Luc is highest scoring Left Winger in NHL history and a fixture here in LA. You know what? Shit, I would rather see Luc’s kid strumming his guitar
          OR Dustin Brown’s wife being awesome talking about their kids
          OR Bob Miller and how he fought against the Shingles
          OR Adam Deadmarsh talking about his creative uses for gravy as a condiment for EVERYTHING
          OR Brian Smolinski revealing his secrets for being a beast when it matters most
          OR Vladimir Tsyplakov talking about obscurity
          OR Jim Fox explaining what a “Kenalty Pill” is
          OR Robb Stauber
          OR Brenden Convery
          OR Kevin Todd
          OR Daniel Bertheiuame
          OR Surly eating yogurt off Bailey’s ASS….ANYTHING BUT F’N GRETZKY ALL THE TIME.

          (breathing….breathing….)

          • lol. I realized late last night that I should have specified it was FROZEN YOGURT. Pistachio, vanilla and peanut butter with chocolate chip cookie bits and toffee crunch. Mmmmmmm. Dinner of champions, and goes great with tea after Yoga :)

        • I mean Brown and Deadmarsh are similar in terms of rallying this team around them and infusing it with an identity that breads winning.

          Deadmarsh was our last cultural identifier.

          • … Really? I dunno, I didn’t look at Deadmarsh that way. He was solid enough, but after Blake was traded, those teams became the Palffy teams. Yeah, Deadmarsh scored the goal, but hell Stoll scored the goal this year and I obviously don’t consider Stoll the identity of the team.

            When I think of who provides the identity of a team, I think of the Captain and/or the MVP. Brown is both of those for the Kings in these playoffs. Palffy was their MVP in the 2001-02 playoffs.

          • Palffy was my favorite player, hands down on that team. I thought of him as our star, not our identity. That was Andy Murray hockey, and Adam Deadmarsh played Andy Murray hockey in a way Palffy never could. Deadmarsh played like a leader and I just always thought of him the same way I have thought of Brown for the last several years. I guess its really just personal that way.

          • Andy Murray hockey

            … For the life of me, I never knew what that was from game to game. “Today we’re gonna be a defensive team!” “Now today, we’re an offensive team!” “Today we’re going to be tough guys!” “I play my best hockey when _________________ !”

  10. Why not a story on Luc’s transition from the ice to the front office

    … I’m asleep already. No, seriously, I’m typing this in my sleep.

    Look I understand lazy journalism. I get it. LA Kings = Gretzky.

    … This journalism isn’t for you or me. It’s for others. I’m just saying I don’t mind it and I don’t blame those who have jumped on it.

  11. I do blame them. Its lazy. And that’s just plain old fashioned Communism.

  12. Wasn’t Chipchura a fuckin’ duck? Pretty sure he was.

  13. Reading around there are plenty of people who think Phoenix is a harder working team and that their two series wins were more impressive than the Kings.

    Obviously…I am biased, but here’s my rant on the Coyotes thus far.

    Round 1 Win against Chicago. ….Chicago, who has a shitty defense and a shitty goaltender. How many goals did Phoenix score in that series that no other goalie would’ve given up? Hossa also got knocked out halfway through the series by that piece of shit so there goes their best two way forward for half the series…also, Phoenix had home ice advantage…if that’s even worth mentioning this playoff season… Thus, I’m not that impressed by this series win.

    Round 2 win against Nashville: Nashville has a solid D, great goalie and great coaching…but name ONE forward on that team who other teams are AFRAID to play against? Name one. I challenge you. I can’t think of any. On top of that…2 of their top 6 forwards were suspended for 2 games. Nashville hit posts, missed half-open net opportunities…they missed chances that plenty of other teams/players would’ve buried. Again…Phoenix w/ home ice. Thus…not that impressed w/ their series win.

    I suppose people could argue reasons why Vancouver and St Louis were “unimpressive” wins too…but it is harder to argue that these 2 teams were the #1/2 seeds….that one of them made the finals just a year ago…the one had the #1 D in the regular season…(yes…Elliott was pretty bad…)

    Which brings me to Mike Smith…I’m with Tim in being skeptical. I hear so many analysts praising the shit out of Mike Smith…for what!? ONE GOOD SEASON IN HIS CAREER? Really? He’s been the definition of average his whole career…and he’s a head case. Sure, he’s had a very good year and a very good playoffs thus far…but I don’t think he’s been tested like the Kings will test him…I think he’s a ticking time bomb of going back to being average…just like Brian Elliott.

    Have the Coyotes faced a player like Dustin Brown in these playoffs? Have they faced a Kopitar (could argue Toews..) …Quick? Have they faced a team that has Richards and Carter on the 2nd line?

    Coyotes are playing good hockey. No doubt about it. But, I think the Kings have been playing better hockey. And I’d rather have our roster, top to bottom, every single day of the week over what the Coyotes have.

    Hard fought series.
    Kings in 6.

    • Chicago, who has a shitty defense and a shitty goaltender.

      … That’s half right. The Hawks have actually a very good team defense, but they definitely do have poor goaltending, and that’s what sunk them.

      Nashville has a solid D, great goalie and great coaching…but name ONE forward on that team who other teams are AFRAID to play against?

      … It depends on what you’re basing the element of fear on – physical fear, or fear of getting outdone skill-wise? The Predators don’t have an all-around tremendous forward, but they have a lot of depth up front; a lot of guys who can chip in here and there. They have excellent structure, as they usually have had under Trotz’s coaching.

      They lost because the management of the team couldn’t set their egos aside. They decided they wanted to play part of the series with one hand tied behind their backs, to prove a point (and the point was “we hate Russians and Byelorussians, I guess?), and it cost them. It’s hard enough to win at full strength. It’s damn near impossible to win at less than that. Nashville also lost because they couldn’t solve Mike Smith, and that brings me to the next point.

      Which brings me to Mike Smith…I’m with Tim in being skeptical. I hear so many analysts praising the shit out of Mike Smith…for what!? ONE GOOD SEASON IN HIS CAREER?

      … I could say the exact same thing about Jonathan Quick. Word for word. Quick has had exactly one good season – this one. As far as I’m concerned, they’re in the same boat. Smith’s season has been more impressive, as has his playoffs, and I think the Kings will have a tough time with Phoenix simply because they are going up against a team with better goaltending than they have. We’re obviously going to see how things play out in the upcoming series, but up to now Smith has been better.

      Have the Coyotes faced a player like Dustin Brown in these playoffs? Have they faced a Kopitar (could argue Toews..)

      … Beyond Toews, the Hawks had Kane and Sharp, also very good forwards. Yes, Hossa was knocked out of the series, but Hossa hadn’t gotten on the scoreboard in three games prior to that. Chicago, like Nashville, just ran into a goalie who was at the top of his game.

      Coyotes are playing good hockey. No doubt about it. But, I think the Kings have been playing better hockey. And I’d rather have our roster, top to bottom, every single day of the week over what the Coyotes have.

      … Phoenix is deep, young, and fast. Their veterans are very solid and battle-tested. They’ve consistently made themselves more than the sum of their individual parts. In my opinion, they have one of the best head coaches (if not THE best) in the business. They have arguably the best goalie in the NHL this season, a guy who not only stops pucks very well but handles the puck very well. They’re a pleasure to watch, at least when they’re not playing against the Kings. I think it’s going to be a great series, and I think the Kings will have their hands full.

      • You guys are jumping the gun. I had an extensive article on the Coyotes coming later today once I get a chance to proof it.

      • You make some good points. However, in my eyes, Quick has had more than 1 good season. 08-09: 44 GP, .914 svp, 2.48 gaa. 09-10: 72GP, .907 svp, 2.54 gaa. 10-11: 61GP, .918 svp, 2.24 gaa and 11-12: 69GP, .929 svp, 1.95 gaa.

        To me, that’s more than one good season.

        Before this season, Smith hadn’t even played more than 42 games in a season.

        And the numbers don’t show Smith has been better this season:
        Regular season: Quick .929 svp, 1.95 gaa ……Smith .930 svp, 2.21 gaa (to me, that’s pretty equal)
        Playoffs: Quick .949 svp, 1.55 gaa … Smith .948 svp, 1.77 gaa (again, pretty equal to me)

        So remind me how Smith is “better” ?? Not only throughout his career, but this season as well…

        I don’t see it.

        • The ol’ JT bias against Quick was destined to rear its Bernier shaped head at some point :)

          I’m not surprise in the least that JT thinks Smith is better, though I vehemently disagree with such an assessment. Smith is a frustrating goalie, as we saw once this season when he shut us out, but not an unsolvable one. He is at best, playing as well as Jonathan Quick.

        • 08-09: 44 GP, .914 svp,

          … That’s a decent half-season.

          09-10: 72GP, .907 svp

          … That would be a terrible season, and it got even worse in the playoffs.

          10-11: 61GP, .918 svp

          … That’s another average season, albeit a full one. It got a little bit worse in the playoffs, but not as much as the year before.

          11-12: 69GP, .929 svp

          … That’s his one good season.

          Before this season, Smith hadn’t even played more than 42 games in a season.

          … There’s two schools of thought on Mike Smith. One of them is that he’s simply having that one shining moment of his career, and will never come close to it ever again. The other one is that, like Tim Thomas, he just needed an organization to give him a full shot in order for him to show what he could do.

          And the numbers don’t show Smith has been better this season:
          Regular season: Quick .929 svp, 1.95 gaa ……Smith .930 svp, 2.21 gaa (to me, that’s pretty equal)
          Playoffs: Quick .949 svp, 1.55 gaa … Smith .948 svp, 1.77 gaa (again, pretty equal to me)

          … What the raw numbers don’t show is that Quick plays for an extraordinary defensive team and Smith plays for a poor defensive team. The Coyotes one glaring weakness is that they give up a lot of shots and scoring chances. Up to now, Smith has been able to minimize that team weakness because of how well he’s played.

          So remind me how Smith is “better” ?? Not only throughout his career, but this season as well…

          … I’ve never said Smith has had a better career. But this season, he’s been better than Quick, by a considerable margin if you ask me. Quick is the beneficiary of his team defense, and has been his entire career – while the Coyotes are the beneficiary of Smith’s goaltending this season.

  14. “Quick was not the top-five goalie then that he is now.” –JT Dutch (http://dutchunderground.wordpress.com/)

    I’ll just go ahead and take this statement and disregard everything else.

    • I’ll just go ahead and take this statement and disregard everything else.

      … I’m well aware of what I said in that article. It doesn’t invalidate anything I’ve said to you, but if you want to believe that it does, have fun.

  15. Of course not…I’m just glad you think he’s a top 5 goalie.

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