Phoenix Coyotes @ LA Kings Round 3 Game 4 Open Forum – Clarence Is In The House

Because Vancouver is golfing.

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Because St. Louis doesn’t know what hit them.

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Because Phoenix only has one dive left to take.

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Because our rookies don’t play like rookies.

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Because our leaders get the job done.

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Because if you don’t wear the Crown, you ain’t going nowhere.

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And if you do, there’s only one place to go.

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You don’t get nothing for three.

For win four, for round four, we pray.

In the name of the Captain, the Son of Philly and the Holy Goalie.
Amen.

Bless us Oh Hockey Gods, and these thy gifts, which we are about to receive, from thy bounty, through LA Kings, Our Team. Amen.

Blessed are You, Kings our Team and Team of our fathers, Team of Dionne, Team of Luc and Team of Gretzky, the great, mighty and awesome Team, exalted Team, who bestows bountiful goals, who creates all wins, who remembers the insanity of the fans, and who, in love, brings a redeemer to their fans’ children, for the sake of Our Kings.

Peace be upon no Phoenix fan, without mercy or blessing of Kings.

Holy Sutter, Holy Stevens;
We give you thanks
that your Schemes, Attitude and Leadership
Are manifest with Power and Pressure
throughout all zones,
within all lines,
and we accept your Tutelage now,
in defense and forecheck.

I pray to the wunderkind, the play-maker, destroyer of all cap space, the enemy of forwards, of great brilliance, the descendent of Orr and of Borque, the one who shines like the Dewey flower.

I invoke and call upon thee O Father Mitchell,
Lord of long stick, Master of all lanes and gaps.
I invite you to the blue line;
Defend it, sustain it, make it home.

As it was,
As it is,
As it shall be
Evermore
O Thou Carter
Of goals!
With the forehand
With the backhand
O Thou Carter
Of goals!
With the forehand
With the backhand

Our Rookies, King of steadfastness, strengthened Nolan, Voynov foothold, support us against the disdainful people.

I profess myself a Penner-worshipper, a Pennercakean, having vowed it and professed it. I pledge myself to the well-played puck, I pledge myself to the well-delivered hit, I pledge myself to the well-fed monster.

Let us know victory.
For as long as the skates shall glide,
For as long as the chemistry shall flow,
For as long as the goal light shall shine,
For as long as the confidence shall grow,
Let us know victory.

Voices above,
Voices of Fans,
Yell from your couch or barstool;
Voices below,
LA King’s Inner-voices,
Speak from the dreams of childhood;
So may our playoffs be beautiful.

Our Kings, who art on home ice
Hallowed be thy game.
Thy kingdom come, thy wills be done
On our ice, as it was on theirs
Give us this day our daily goals, and forgive no Coyote their transgressions,
As we pound into submission those who trespass against us.
And lead us past the third round,
Past these evil Coyote fucks.
Amen.

Hail Kopi, full of grace, the fans are with thee.
Blessed art thou amongst players and blessed are the fruit of thy skills, goals.
Holy Kopi, dominant of centers, play for us sinners,
Now until the hour of our Cup.
A-fucking-men.

Go fucking nuts.

GO FUCKING NUTS!

GO KINGS!!!



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  1. Today will be my 2nd LIVE handshake line and my first LIVE Campbell Trophy presentation. Come on King’s fans, let’s bring the roof down today!

  2. Reblogged this on NOMADICLES and commented:
    Going to the game this afternoon. The Cup is near.

  3. Oh Kings soldiers carry on with your bulldozer march in the playoffs. Do so with all haste and prestige. Redemption is at hand, for your fans and city yearn for it from far and wide.

    Your fans hail from the Central California Coast, San Joaguin Valley, Antelope Vally, Inland Empire, Coachella Valley, Orange County, San Bernardino Mountains, South Bay, Santa Monica Mountains, Simi Vally, SF Valley, Ventura/Santa Barbara, Inyo/Bishop, Vegas, Colorado River (Calif. side), Santa Catalina, PV, San Gabriel Valley, and every place next to or nearby this whole SoCal metropolis. There are King fans spread out everywhere else in the USA and Canada too.

    We are all here now anxiously but confidently watching in anticipation that today, this beautiful May Sunday, is your day in the SoCal sunshine.

    Your Kings territory and kingdom contains millions and millions of fans, much bigger than many countries in the world. Your palace is Staples Castle. It is your bastion. It is your sanctuary. It is your repository of all of the Kings traditions and achievements. Over the years there has been great honors bestowed to so many Kings players, who broke so many great records for the team and in the NHL. We fans have recently celebrated Legends events with our favorites that gave us pride and thrills. In honor of those that sacrificed you wore the famed Purple and Gold, that is still embedded in our hearts and soul forever, no matter what may happen.

    Oh Kings, we die hard and live hard fans can now smell the sweet flagrance of a great trophy that was once here in the yesteryear of the Kingdom. Yes, many of us fans were once present to cherish the gaze upon this trophy about which today’s game is played in our City of Angels.

    It is presently residing there today at Staples Castle. It is here for your award. It needs to be awarded. It is there for the taking. It goes to the victors which is all now within your ever close grasp.

    It is there for the raising at Staples Castle. It is there for the fans and for all to see and admire and appreciate as a symbol of your great and triumphant success in the month of May playoffs. This trophy opens the door to the greatest hockey month—-JUNE ice hockey in SoCal!

    This trophy is your entry ticket for the fourth round battles so that you can claim the ultimate now even larger and taller Lord Stanley Cup. That is the hollowed prized Cup that is now about to be prime time competition within the Kingdom. We want the Cup!

    The Staples Castle is your cauldron of pride, passion, and power, and now it can be exponentially poured out by and through this Campbell Trophy on the ice today and spread out to the entire Kingdom to welcome and savor.

    http://frozenroyalty.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/demers-millercup.jpg?w=378&h=302

    GO KINGS GO!!!

    • AMEN!!!
      GO KINGS GO!!!!!

      May this Kings Team deliver us, long time fans, the ultimate reward in hockey.
      I will be chanting,cheering and yelling with all of our fans at the Staple center from home.
      GO KINGS GOOOOOOO!!!!!

  4. I can’t believe that bitch Doan DDT ‘d doughty. I think the wwe is hiring

  5. To quote a classic 80′s film:

    Kreese: What do we study here?
    Karate Class: THE WAY OF THE FIST SIR.
    Kreese: And what is that way?
    Karate Class: STRIKE FIRST. STRIKE HARD. NO MERCY SIR.
    Kreese: I can’t hear you.
    Karate Class: STRIKE FIRST. STRIKE HARD. NO MERCY SIR.

    Go Kings, GO!!!!

    • And let’s not forget this one with a slight tweak:

      “We do not train to be merciful here. Mercy is for the weak. Here, on the ice, in competition: A man confronts you, he is the enemy. An enemy deserves no mercy.

      Go Kings, GO!

  6. Today. ..We are Blessed to be
    LOS ANGELES KING FANS!!!
    We are the Lucky ones. I say this with humbleness. and confidence.
    I LOVE OUR KINGS!
    GO KINGS GO!!!

  7. Let today be the day I’ve seen only once before. Let’s enjoy this game as truly a nation of Kings fans. Let’s make the Stanley Cup final. GKG!!!

  8. That is a bullshit penalty on Williams!! Thanks ref for the free goal to phoenix.

    GKG!

  9. The bounces are not going our way, we’re hitting posts, fanning on passes, and shots, and fucking Shane Doan. What the fuck?!

  10. This game is frustrating, the boys look really sloppy. fuck

  11. This is the adversity I was talking about the other day. The kings have barely had to play from behind these whole playoffs. I don’t like the response the Kings have made.

    There’s a reason why no team who started 11-1 have won the Stanley Cup (I think that’s right).

    • Come on guys. A bump in the road, and you guys are getting negative? Smith has been very sloppy and the kings have had more pressure than PHX.
      And I really don’t like the, “there’s a reason why no team who started 11-1 have won the Stanley Cup” comment. That’s a very defeatist comment. What are you saying…due to our incredible start, the kings most likely won’t win it all??

      • You don’t have to like it. Facts are facts. What that means is teams that start out that hot don’t face the adversity the other teams do so they are more prepared for the battles.

        What, am I supposed to be happy the Kings look like shit? It goes bot ways. Its called acountability.

        • Those are other teams! Who gives a shit what other teams have done? Nont a single player from those “facts” have ever even skated or touched the same puck as our Kings. Here is another fact for you: 75% of the human body is made of water.

          That fact actually has more to do with our team than yours.

          • History repeats itself… haven’t you learned that?

            I never said it would happen, I just told you the facts. If past history has nothing to do with anything, why in all of sports do they have certain matchups for certain situations? Because history dictates a pattern. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • That and also none of those other teams were 8th seeds to knock out the #1, #2 and soon to be #3 teams.

      • We must be watching different games. Smith looks good as fuck.

      • Smith has been very sloppy

        … LMFAO. Hahahhahahahahaha gotdamn son. Smith pretty much stole this game – he and the goalposts, anyway.

        The Kings played pretty well, but they lost. That’s life.

        • Pretty muc. Why I said the Kings played shitty is because a big part of their success this postseason has been there forecheck and backcheck. Those two things have thrown the opposition off their game the whole playoffs. It was non-existent today (maybe a little bit of exaggeration, but still). This allowed the Yotes to control large portions of the game and it seemed we couldn’t get our cycle going as well as we have. I give credit to Phoenix, they played a good game. We had our chances, just couldn’t find the back of the net.

          • … I think a lot of that is – for a change, the Kings were “chasing” the game. In just about every other game in these playoffs, the other team has been the one chasing.

            The Kings, once again, had to deal with a Quick error that led to a goal. Then, they gave up a fluky one. Meanwhile, they just weren’t getting anything on the other end because Smith was both very good and lucky. The Kings still outplayed Phoenix. I’m happy with what they did. It’s disappointing to lose, but they’re still of course in the driver’s seat.

          • Hmm. I agree with pretty much all you said.

            I don’t know if the Kings outplayed them, but I won’t argue that point. The Kings had the better scoring chances, but I think Phoenix outplayed them until they had their 2-0 lead, then buckled up for the Kings expected rush. Maybe the forecheck and backcheck issues took too big a hold on me and I didn’t give the Kings enough credit.

            Quick… man. That dude can stop the hard ones, but is reverting back to old form letting those soft goals in again. And I’m not saying this about tonight either.

            In any event, you know Daryl will fucking grill them, so I expect a better overall game Tuesday.

          • I agree with this post, except for how Quick erred on the first goal. I may have missed it live but thought the first goal was just a goal.

          • It was claimed that Quick negated an icing, but that’s according to Darren Pang, so…

        • Smith only stole the game because his dmen boxed out well. On most of our shots, he left soft rebounds right in the slot…and the play behind the net where he gave it to Williams…and the long shot he lost, let dribble in front, then it squeaks under his pad and goes right to his glove…he didn’t see that either.
          Yea, Smith was sloppy. We didn’t play hard enough to cash in on his Sloppiness.

          • To each their own. I won’t say you’re wrong or right, and I won’t say the same about my thoughts either. There is probably truth in what we are all saying.

      • Smith was very beatable today but we didn’t get sticks on any second chances, of which Smith gave up plenty.

  12. Btw, fuck Smith. He’s stopping everything

  13. I blame the loser energy that the Lakers, and Clippers left in the building. As crappy as the Kings played, the game is done, fuck it. They are going to win game 5. This happened against Vancouver, and they came back game 5, and swept St. Louis, so let’s hope that today’s loss sparks the same streak.

  14. … Bob Miller correctly pointing out the Kings haven’t faced much adversity yet. And, Jim Fox correctly pointing out that the Kings weren’t outplayed.

    • Maybe I’m expecting too much out of the Kings. Maybe they did play alright. Alright hasn’t won them pretty much any game in the playoffs though, which I guess is why I feel they didn’t play that well.

      • Maybe I’m expecting too much out of the Kings. Maybe they did play alright.

        … For once, the Kings didn’t DOMINATE a game, is all. Unfortunately, that led to the Kings being defeated. That sucks and it’s disappointing, but that’s part of the game.

        Again, if you told me before the playoffs that the Kings would be 11-2 after their first 13 playoff games, I’d be the happiest SOB in the World.

    • They were unlucked and fucked over by their consistently shitty PP. let us hope this is the only loss this postseason I can pin on Kompon’s ineptitude.

      • Kompon’s ineptitude

        … Yawn. I’m sure Kompon told the Kings “Hey, fuck it, just don’t worry about keeping in the puck at the point, guys. No problem.”

        They weren’t great on the power play, but they weren’t bad either. Smith was just good. I know it’s like sacrilege to credit an opponent once in a while, but their goalie deserves that credit.

        • I think today, the nerves and pressure to finish the series at home got better of our guys.
          Bad officiating continues to impact games and unfortunately one went against us and Kings could not take advantage of the one presented to us.
          Time to put this one behind and start fresh in Glendale on Tuesday.
          It is going to be sweet when we but them there to get those “whiteouts” the sweep.
          Kings fans don’t forget to take your brooms or brushes if going to Arizona.
          Go Kings Go!!!

          • That was a totally crap call on Stoll, since Smith is skating everywhere around his zone all the time. We could plainly see that Stoll was skating to turn to the puck.
            Actually, the ref had it totally backward as Smith had mucho chances to figure out how to wander back to his net. It was really also no harm no foul stuff in the first place and no call was warranted on Stoll.

          • I think today, the nerves and pressure to finish the series at home got better of our guys.

            … I don’t believe that, at all. They were just victimized by some poor goalie play and some bad bounces. Smith put on a clinic and the Coyotes did a good job of blocking shots and boxing out. Again, it doesn’t hurt to be honest and simply credit the opposition when they deserve it.

            As you said, the refs made bad calls which affected both teams, so there’s no point in bothering to bring them up.

          • A clinic? Hardly. Don’t give Smith credit for the same things For which you malign Quick.

            Phoenix neutral zone play, defense an puck pressure deserves the lions share of the credit for this game.

          • A clinic? Hardly. Don’t give Smith credit for the same things For which you malign Quick.

            … LOL. I don’t. Smith’s just a better goalie, has been all season long, and he played like the better goalie today. Smith’s team was outchanced, yet he earned a shutout. I don’t know if Smith stole the game from the Kings, but he certainly played very well.

            I also find it quite telling that in a rare game where the Kings didn’t dominate the opposition, Quick was beaten.

          • Quick has had an easy road these playoffs.

            You’ve been a fan of saying that the Kings haven’t had to face much adversity. Well today they faced adversity and failed to execute. The exact same can be said of Quick. He hasn’t had to face adversity these playoffs, today he does and drops the ball on one goal.

            Why you don’t care to think our inefficiency on the power play today was a deciding factor is BEYOND me.

            As for the regular season, Smith was not a better goalie, nor was he last year, nor will he be next year, but that’s neither here nor there.

          • As for the regular season, Smith was not a better goalie

            … I have no clue how you can say this other than you being biased.

            Smith had a higher save percentage, he played behind a far worse defense, and there’s no comparison how much better he is at handling the puck. He’s been better than Quick this season by a considerable margin, actually.

          • I’m sure Smith will enjoy his Vezina… Or wait, his nomination… Oh…

            Team offense is a factor too you know an playing behind the leagues worst and second worst offense the entire year makes Quick’s job harder.

            And their save % was .01 apart. So you can keep that one to yourself.

          • I’m sure Smith will enjoy his Vezina… Or wait, his nomination… Oh…

            … OK, so those who vote on the Vezina are dumb. This is news??? They’re no better than the ones who vote on the Selke and snub guys like Kopitar.

            Team offense is a factor too you know an playing behind the leagues worst and second worst offense the entire year makes Quick’s job harder.

            … Actually, it’s not a factor, at all. The team offense has nothing to do with Quick doing his job as a goaltender. Quick’s position is in the defensive zone, not the offensive zone. I’ve said all of this numerous times.

            And their save % was .01 apart. So you can keep that one to yourself.

            … Why? How does being .01 worse in save percentage make Quick a better goalie? And it’s awesome how you didn’t even address the other two points I made. It’s OK. I know why you didn’t.

          • You do? Because the reason is that I’m at a fancy dinner and shouldn’t be on the phone at all but am sneaking away a minute here or there to get my fix of arguing with you.

            Still at that dinner.

          • Puck handling- Quick’s weakness. I get it. It’s also burned Smith at times because he can be over aggressive. Smith isn’t as good post to post as Quick of we are going to start listing specific abilities.

            Worse defense- true. And this is the most valid argument you have. However Phoenix didn’t win on their goalies backs as much as the Kings did Quicks because…

            Of offense. Offense factors in because it A) means the goalie is leaned upon more heavily and B) is a mental thing. It makes Quick’s job harder in a way that Smith’s wasn’t when his team was completely fucking anemic on offense for months on end. I’m sure you think that amorphous things like mental toughness mean nothing, but you can think that all you like but you’d be completely wrong.

            I’m willing to agree that Smith has been as good as Quick all things considered, that’s my concession. But undeniably better? Absolutely disagree and it doesn’t take bias to think Quick was the best goalie in the league this year.

            As for the Vezina, the GMs vote on the Vezina. The Professional Hockey writers Association votes on the Selke.

          • Smith isn’t as good post to post as Quick of we are going to start listing specific abilities.

            … Doesn’t need to be because he’s better positioned to start with.

            Offense factors in because it A) means the goalie is leaned upon more heavily

            … Don’t buy it. A goalie’s job is to make saves. If the defense in front of him keeps opposing chances at a minimum, that goalie’s job is going to be easy relative to the other goalies in the league. Doesn’t matter what the score is.

            B) is a mental thing. It makes Quick’s job harder in a way that Smith’s wasn’t when his team was completely fucking anemic on offense for months on end.

            … See above. It doesn’t matter if the Kings are scoring one goal a game or eight goals a game. The goalie’s job is to make saves. If the defense is limiting the tough saves a goalie has to make, then that goalie’s job is going to be easier.

            I’m sure you think that amorphous things like mental toughness mean nothing, but you can think that all you like but you’d be completely wrong.

            … Won’t claim it means nothing at all but it certainly doesn’t mean anything in the context you’re using. I don’t believe goalies play to the score and I don’t believe they “try harder” in certain situations and “try less” in other situations. I believe goalies do their best at all times to stop every shot they possibly can.

            Where mental strength/toughness comes into play is maintaining a focus for the entire game – for instance, not getting beat on shots from the red line because you’ve let your focus slip.

            I’m willing to agree that Smith has been as good as Quick all things considered, that’s my concession. But undeniably better?

            … Yes.

            Absolutely disagree and it doesn’t take bias to think Quick was the best goalie in the league this year.

            … Actually it does when you stop to look at both goalies and their results, and the reason that most or all of the members of the Church of Quick don’t look at those results is because they are inconsistent with that bias.

            As for the Vezina, the GMs vote on the Vezina. The Professional Hockey writers Association votes on the Selke.

            … Yup, I know. And, they both made mistakes this year. There were key snubs. This sort of thing goes on just about every year; it’s not surprising. GM’s aren’t infallible, nor are writers. The GMs obviously chose the Vezina nominees based on statistics. The problem I have with them is that if they’re going to use statistics, use the right ones, first off, and secondly, look at the statistics in their context. Pretty cut and dried.

          • I don’t believe goalies play to the score and I don’t believe they “try harder” in certain situations and “try less” in other situations. I believe goalies do their best at all times to stop every shot they possibly can.

            Irrelevant. I said nothing of effort. The score amounts to pressure and pressure has an effect on mental fortitude. When a goalie can’t let one in because he knows his team can’t score one to even the balance sheet, there is more pressure on that goalie. Pretty obvious. The goalie who plays for the weaker offense plays with more pressure.

            As for your Church of Quick nonsense and how “we” don’t look at numbers, Smith’s save % was again, .01 better than Quick’s. His GAA was a third of a goal worse. He had 10 more penalty minutes than Quick, 2 fewer shutouts, 3 more wins/3 fewer losses.

            The only real stat you are using is team defense, which you can’t say to what degree that affected Quick and Smith, you just can’t. You can say that “Smith had a worse defense in front of him” and I can say that Quick was a big part of his team’s better defense. You can say Smith did more with less help defensively and I can say that Quick was a more critical part of his team because he had less offensive help. I can say that Quick put his team on his back more and stole more games than Smith. You can say that Smith let in fewer soft goals and that you think He has pretty eyes. At best you can say that it’s a draw, without any bias, mine for Quick or yours against him. I think Quick is better, my opinion. You think Smith better, your opinion. Your notion that there are facts that say Smith is clearly better is hair brained and false. The Church of Quick as you call it doesn’t need to ignore any statistics because all the statistics out there favor Quick as equal to or better than every goalie in the league this year.

            As to your comment about Smith not needing to be better post to post, what an asinine comment. There are numerous instances where a goalie’s positioning has little to nothing to do with his need to go post to post quickly. Quick is simply faster, more flexible and more agile than Smith and you can’t even give him credit for that.

            Finally, your last comment about the trophy voting was a very nice way of dancing around the fact that you made a completely false statement to make a failed analogy.

            Just love your goalie man. You (who doesn’t really bother to go to games much an cheer on his team) likes to pick on fans, as I saw you do today on twitter, when those fans at Staples aren’t loud enough or supportive enough, so perhaps stop being a hypocrite in this regard and just cheer your goalie on instead of trying to find every possible way to denigrate him.

            I said Smith had a season equivalent to Quick’s, and that’s what your vaulted stats corroborate, so how about we leave it at that? Two fantastic goalies with career years. Let’s just not get into why you have a bias against a Kings player. I don’t think it needs explaining why I would have a bias for one.

          • … I had a response planned for this, but it would be a bit lengthy and I’ll let it go. This thread has gone on long enough.

            I find those posts where a bit of truth comes out to be pretty interesting. Seeing the way you determine who’s a “real fan” of the team and who isn’t is quite telling. The picture is starting to become a little clearer.

          • If you prefer to end this by making an assumption and leaping to a conclusion I didn’t indicate, that’s your prerogative.

            You read into that what you wanted. I think everyone who reads and comments on this site is a “real fan”. Bogus fans don’t waste their time with blogs. Your fandom doesn’t preclude you from being a hypocrite.

            For someone who likes facts, this is one time where taking a statement at face value would serve you well. If I wanted to say you are a lesser fan because you have a bias against a Kings player, I would say just that. Instead I said what I meant, a Kings fan having a bias against his own team’s player is harder to wrap your head around than a Kings fan having a bias for his own team’s player.

            I think you’re a stubborn asshole. I KNOW I’m a stubborn asshole.

            It’s self explanatory why I have a bias for Quick. One day perhaps you’ll explain yours against him instead of hiding behind the debatable meaning of numbers that you insist are Truth.

          • … Response is down below.

          • If the nerves got to anyone, it was Brown and Martinez. Brown was mostly a non factor ad I thought Martinez had a poor game.

            Otherwise Kings played well but did hound the net enough. They were swarming until the first goal and then they let up a little. They also got too cute at times which led to some bad turnovers which in turn led to hesitation with the puck.

        • I see Smith’s game as one of those games that you like to say Quick often benefits from, where his defense did most of the work. Smith was shaky and fighting the puck all game long. He was decent of first chances but the shutout is mostly a result of key blocked shots and the Coyotes boxing out second chances.

          • Smith was shaky and fighting the puck all game long.

            … Wow. Well, I dunno – I guess we all see what we want to see.

          • I didn’t see Smith being shaky too much on the TV. He gave up some rebounds, but he looked pretty damn solid. Their D played well too, but we didn’t lose because Smith played bad. We lost because of a terrible forecheck and unlucky bounces, among some other things.

          • Just see what I see. I saw Smith enter of first chances than usual, but also saw his defenseman box out screens our block some d our most dangerous shots. I saw him let several loose picks trickle dangerously off rebounds and be saved by either quick whistles or his defenseman not allowing the Kings to get to rebounds. This isn’t just what I saw, but things that actually happened. If you want to give Smith credit for a clinic because of those first chances he stopped, well that’s fine, but I saw a goalie that was VERY vulnerable today. You often like to say Quick was just average when he gets a shutout because the defense does a ton of work, why can’t the same be true of Smith?

          • You often like to say Quick was just average when he gets a shutout because the defense does a ton of work, why can’t the same be true of Smith?

            … Simply put, because it isn’t the same. Smith doesn’t put himself out of position by overplaying nearly as much as Quick does, and Smith also handles the puck well, which helps his defense more.

            The Kings still had 36 shots and 19 scoring chances and the Coyotes still had 21 shots and 14 scoring chances. It’s not like the Coyotes’ chances weren’t one-and-dones, either. They were. The Kings played a better game but didn’t dominate, and Quick lost.

          • So you put this one only on Quick? You change nothing but Quick and think we win? Honest questions, not trying to put words in your mouth.

            I saw the Brown play a lackluster game. Martinez struggle and the Kings fight the puck often. I saw Phoenix play their best game of the series, their defense box out and block far more shots than they had before. I saw Quick get burned by one shot and the team get burned by one really dumb ass penalty on Williams. I saw Smith play a good, not great game and I saw the Kings power play sap momentum and fail to give them the leg up they needed.

          • … Nope, I don’t put the LOSS on Quick; just as they are team wins, they are team losses as well. I do believe Quick was purely responsible for the first goal against – I WILL say that, and it wasn’t because he didn’t stop the puck, it’s because he erred in playing the puck in that situation in the first place.

            The second one, if anything I’d blame Doughty for trying to clear the puck up the middle; that’s a no-no, that led to a shot on goal and a faceoff in the Kings’ zone, and Richards deserves blame for cleanly losing the draw which led to the fluky goal.

            I haven’t looked at the head-to-head numbers as of yet, but sure I’d have liked to see a bit more from the first line today; from the first three lines, honestly. I thought Sutter got a bit too enamored with his fourth line as a result, as he is wont to do; I don’t blame him much, but I’d rather go with the guys more responsible for why I’m here. Just a personal preference.

        • So your point is that if a guy means well, he doesn’t suck. Got it.

          • … Honestly, is THAT what you got out of my post? Really? OK.

            Keep fighting that good fight! I’m just wondering who the next scapegoat will be if and when Kompon is fired. I suppose it will be Stevens?

          • No. It will be the stick boy.

            And yes, the PP has been awful for the majority of Kompon’s tenure, through good execution an bad in every other facet of the game. Why you refuse to accept that maybe the guy just isn’t very good is bizarre.

          • … It’s not that I think he’s great. I don’t ever recall saying that, not once.

            I just don’t find any need to scapegoat him. Most times, the PP doesn’t work because of poor execution and/or poor luck. That’s just the nature of something which happens within a small, two-minute window of time.

          • I know you don’t think he’s great, but you seem to think he’s beyond reproach. Consistency has to count for something and he’s the PP has been either consistently average or consistently awful. Since his primary responsibility is to be in charge of the power play it is by no means unfair to put the burden of its success or failure on his shoulders.

      • Hey Surly….. having nothing to do w the game, but, in the photo of you and Bobby…. which one is you and which is Bobby? Thanks.

  15. I didn’t think we’d have a 13 game win streak. Best to get overwith now, and start a new 5 game win streak. I believe in this team.
    The problem, S&S, was that my dog jumped up on the couch from the wrong side early in the first. ;)

  16. … Sutter was particularly hilarious in the post-game press bit, and the media continues to be so ridiculously stupid and annoying throughout. I’d pull a Tortorella on them if I were Darryl. Christ.

  17. This game was really closer than most people want to recognize. Sure, the Kings PP was not clicking and they have something to continue to work on there.
    Doan had a open walk in to the net from the back end, where he found a tiny, tiny slot through Quick’s arm. The other goal was a broken, erratic screwed up flukey goal that did not mean anything bad by the Kings.
    Overall, the Kings came out with the basic idea to keep up with the actions that worked in the past. This time there was greater levels of collapsing by the dogs and closing down lanes and blocking shots, which ultimately got them a win.
    The Kings still have the dogs under repeated attacks and faster and more penetrating skating and steals and shots, where the Kings will certainly keep this all up for no matter how long it takes.

    GO KINGS GO!!!

  18. Very concerned that our quality of play is on a perfect downward spiral in this series since game 1. That is how teams :home a 3-0 series lead. Need a turnaround Tuesday.

  19. the blueprint for beating the Kings has been established: have an injured player come back for game 4. how to deal with them in games 1-3 & 5 is still undetermined.

  20. Losing is always disappointing. I thought they boys looked a little lackluster for some reason. So we didn’t get the sweep. It’s probably better that they didn’t. The eastern conf teams are battling it out and the series may go to 7. Let’s take them out game 5 or 6. Game 7 would be a little hairy.

  21. It is hard to always judge by watching TV, but, this game resembled more of a regular season game. I felt that the Kings were indoctrinated by Sutter that there was no reason to sweat things, or panic, or anything, but just go out there and continue on with the usual “New King” balanced offense and defense with sufficient reliable goaltending.
    Sutter got what we told the guys to do, don’t change and keep pushing the puck and wait for opportunities, which did come along a lot for the whole game.

    There is one thing that I really wish can change for the better is where Quick stops holding, and holding, and holding, and more holding onto pucks behind the net, until some opposing player gets on top of him practically and then he makes some kind of pass or hand off.

    Do you get the feeling that he is always a split second from disaster on that technique, or am I just too antsy and too picky and just leave him alone?

    Does anyone have any clue on what is up with all of that endless holding onto pucks?

    I mean 99% of the time it does not mean anything one way or the other, but, it bothers me that 1% of the time that his self created house of cards crashes down on his behind the net action.

    Even today his clearing pass went to the side board, and then shortly intercepted and a few seconds later into the net.

  22. Does anyone have any clue on what is up with all of that endless holding onto pucks?

    … Quick has zero confidence handling the puck, and his communication with defensemen isn’t the greatest. Doughty was well on his way to retrieving the puck for an icing call, and Quick just took the puck away from him and turned it over. Teams know this about the Kings, and they try their best to exploit it. The Kings’ D has bailed out Quick so many times in these situations, it’s ridiculous, but because they do it so efficiently it’s rarely noticed by the fans. If there was a main reason or two why the Kings get hemmed in their own zone, it’s 1) Quick not handling the puck properly, or going after the puck (or NOT going after the puck) at the wrong times, and 2) Quick’s propensity to whomp down on every loose puck around him because of his lack of confidence at moving it. I don’t think a lot of people realize how commonplace this has been for Quick and the Kings’ D over the last three years.

  23. Quick is terrible with the puck. Yes.

  24. Players can change if push gets to shove. Quick probably knows he has to puck control better on clearing and outlets. Maybe hypnosis treatment will work in the off season. Too late to figure he can fix this this season. We will need to hold our breath when he is behind the net.
    I just hate getting blue in my face with anoxia.

  25. If I wanted to say you are a lesser fan because you have a bias against a Kings player

    a Kings fan having a bias against his own team’s player

    One day perhaps you’ll explain yours against him

    … I’ll just say this. Want to know why I call it the “Church of Quick”? This is why.

    Because no matter how much I say Quick has had a very good season, no matter how much I have said he’s had a top-five season, no matter how much I praise him during games and after games, which I’ve done time and time again – no matter how good I say he is, you and your Church Fellowship will always say I have a bias against Quick because I don’t say that he’s the best goalie in Kings’ history, because I don’t say he’s the best goalie in the NHL, because I don’t say he’s the real Hart Trophy winner. In essence, I must confess that he’s the Lord our God to be accepted into the Fellowship; if I don’t, I am biased against him and I supposedly find every possible way to denigrate him. I am a blasphemer. I am persecuting the True Believers.

    It’s always a circuitous argument with you or any member of the Church Fellowship. The Kings have favored defense over offense this season, and because of this, the Church believes that Quick has more pressure on him because the Kings don’t score much. If the Kings were an offensive team instead of a defensive team, the Church would then believe that Quick has more pressure on him because the Kings didn’t play defense and thus hung him out to dry. Regardless of the team context, you and the Church will find a way to give Quick the lion’s share of the credit for any success the team has, and you will find any way you can to blame the team for Quick’s flaws. I get it.

    We’ve had this discussion for three years, now. Back in 09-10, when Quick was one of the worst goalies in the league, you and the Church pointed to his win total as “proof” he was a great goalie. Remember those times? I do. You don’t really want to know the numbers or the facts. You don’t care. You have your Faith in the Lord, and that is that.

    Your fandom doesn’t preclude you from being a hypocrite.

    … You have a long way to go to reach the time I’ve invested in this team. I’ve been to plenty of games in the Forum, pre and post 99, and at Staples. I don’t feel the need to go to games at this point because A) I’m more comfortable at home and B) I’ve done my fucking time, both in regular seasons and playoffs. When I’m damn good and ready to go back, I will.

    When the fans at Staples are loud and awesome, I will and have pointed that out. When the fans at Staples are quiet at a Conference Final game, I’m going to point that out, too. When the fans at Staples boo a team that has gone 11-2 in these playoffs, I’m going to point that out, too. If you’re not one of the quiet ones, or one of the people who booed, why do you feel the need to address it here and get pissy and defensive about it? Everyone who actually responded to me on Twitter agreed that the crowd was quiet, and most said “the Kings didn’t give us much to cheer about.” But Eric Cartman did??? The crowd would be loud during a break, then immediately quiet down. So spare me with this “hypocrite” bullshit, OK? I have every right to call it the way I see it, and tell it like it is.

    • … I’ll just say this. Want to know why I call it the “Church of Quick”? This is why.

      This isn’t about all that. I know you’ve said top 5, and yet constantly found ways to point out how he isnts as good as everyone else seems to think. If you admit he’s top 5 then he can’t be all that bad to warrant some of the “see how soft that goal was! Told you wasn’t that great” throw it your face comments I’ve seen you levy. But really this is about this specific comparison and the fact that you say Smith is clearly and undeniably better than Quick and that supposedly there are facts to support this claim. I argue that those “facts” are presumptive, since you don’t have metrics on correlation to team defense’s impact on a goalie’s performance, and quality of shots or difficulty of saves and pressure imposed and zone time and several other factors that would be critical to making such a sweeping generalization that the Kings defense being better than Phoenix’s automatically makes Smith the better goalie. Sure Smith has a similar save percentage and faced more shots, but what shots? Show me that more shots automatically means more difficult saves and I’ll buy it. We’ve seen Quick’s save % benefit often from teams lobbing nothing shots his way or inflated shot clocks. Show me how Smith hasn’t benefitted from similar deviances in raw numbers. Your assumptions on these issues is why I say you have a bias against him. My assumption that Quick is better because of the games I’ve seen him put his team on his back is part of my bias at work.

      … You have a long way to go to reach the time I’ve invested in this team. I’ve been to plenty of games in the Forum, pre and post 99, and at Staples. I don’t feel the need to go to games at this point because A) I’m more comfortable at home and B) I’ve done my fucking time, both in regular seasons and playoffs. When I’m damn good and ready to go back, I will.
      .

      This is fair of you to say. I will say that it perplexes me that certain long time fans are reluctant to go to games, particularly right now. My father is very similar, he goes to one maybe two games a year these days. So I understand that some of you people are old and cranky and don’t want to leave your couch :)

      When the fans at Staples are loud and awesome, I will and have pointed that out. When the fans at Staples are quiet at a Conference Final game, I’m going to point that out, too. When the fans at Staples boo a team that has gone 11-2 in these playoffs, I’m going to point that out, too. If you’re not one of the quiet ones, or one of the people who booed, why do you feel the need to address it here and get pissy and defensive about it? Everyone who actually responded to me on Twitter agreed that the crowd was quiet, and most said “the Kings didn’t give us much to cheer about.” But Eric Cartman did??? The crowd would be loud during a break, then immediately quiet down. So spare me with this “hypocrite” bullshit, OK? I have every right to call it the way I see it, and tell it like it is.

      A). I heard no booing. This is news to me.
      B) even I was quiet for most of the third. There was a deflating feeling about the team and not even I who am loud and obnoxious most of the time, keep it going non stop when the team gives me a sensation that I can’t shake that they aren’t going to break through. I also get more intense and focus on the game to the point where I forget to cheer because I’m scrutinizing the play.
      c) none of that has to do with the hypocrite comment. That comment is that you give the impression that you think those at the games should cheer regardless of the score or the play of the team, because we’re Kings fans. I agree, and similarly I think you should cheer on Quick without judgement. I think it’s hypocritical for you to jump all over Quick at every opportunity while judging others for not cheering on the team as a whole because they are negatively judging their play. And I’m not talking about after game discourse, I’m talking about during games and the comments I’ve seen you make about Quick when he has a less than spectacular play. Instead of cheering him on ie: “ok, ok shit happens let’s go Quickie get it back!” I see you jump all over him, which to me is the at-home equivalent of fans booing at a game.

      • “see how soft that goal was! Told you wasn’t that great” throw it your face comments I’ve seen you levy.

        … I’ve actually said “I don’t want to hear about how Quick is the team MVP” after a soft goal against. Those comments are in the heat of the moment, but I’ll own them. I don’t believe he is the MVP and I’ve given my reasons why. Generally why I’m so hard on Quick is kind of an inverse to how almost everyone else is so easy on him and tends to (in my mind) overrate him. Part of it also is from my own nature, being a contrarian and all – I’m not the kind of person to post stuff like “I agree” a lot, and I’m usually not going to respond to something unless I disagree with it somewhere.

        But really this is about this specific comparison and the fact that you say Smith is clearly and undeniably better than Quick and that supposedly there are facts to support this claim.

        … In the first round of the playoffs, Quick faced 59 scoring chances in 5 games. Smith faced 100 in 7 games. The margin per game of difference (14.3 per game for Smith, 11.8 for Quick) mirrors the shot differential for the regular season for both guys (Quick faced around 27 shots a game, Smith faced around 31 a game). I can definitely say that overall and at 5-on-5, the Kings are a better defensive team than the Coyotes are. This playoff series is another example – Smith has faced 92 scoring chances (23.0 per game), Quick has faced just 59 (14.7 per game). It’s a huge margin, and it has corroborated what I’ve seen with my eyes – the Kings are simply creating more chances and are much stronger defensively as a team than Phoenix.

        Obviously, not all chances and not all shots on goal are created equal. No stat is perfect. But, no narrative is perfect, either. When I combine the numbers with what I’ve seen on the ice, it jibes. The Kings’ team defense, led by Doughty and Mitchell and Scuderi and Greene and Kopitar and Stoll, simply is more talented than Phoenix’s. Combine that with the knowledge of Murray and Lombardi’s defensive focus over the last several years and the consistently low shots against during that time, it’s clear to me that the Kings’ D is probably the best in the league – or near the best.

        This is part of the reason why I wanted so much for the Kings to split time in goal between Quick and Bernier, just so we could find out once and for all which goalie is better and so there could be positive proof about whether the impressive defensive stats are an illusion or not. But it seems as if no one in the Kings’ organization will ever be allowed to challenge Quick. The Kings gave him the spot, removed all of his competition from the picture, and put an excellent defensive team in front of him. Soon, Bernier will be removed from the picture, and Zatkoff and Jones after him. So, as a result, I’m forced to go with the results that are available to me, and I’m confident enough in those results to do that. They’re not perfect, but they’re good enough, and more importantly, they’re not biased and they’re not subjective. I like that.

        This is fair of you to say. I will say that it perplexes me that certain long time fans are reluctant to go to games, particularly right now.

        … I think that if the Kings still were at the Forum, I would go a lot more often. Staples just turns me off for a lot of reasons, first being that it wasn’t built for me. It’s not built for the hardcore fan. It’s built for wealthy people who don’t care about hockey. That’s fine. I’m alright with AEG wanting to make money, but it’s pushed me and a lot of others away. The Forum was more intimate, grittier, noisier. It’s in a shitty neighborhood. It’s just a hardcore place. The Forum was also where I learned about the game, so there’s that “formative years” thing about it. I’m not old, I don’t look old, and I don’t feel old, but maybe I’m just old-school. Staples is really a beautiful place, and they’ve built up the surrounding area to an unbelievable degree – but the feel of it is much more like a mall rather than a place where you get your dogs and your beers and watch a sport like hockey. Does that make sense? I dunno. Just who I am.

        I love what the Kings are doing, that goes without saying. I’m not expecting the fans to be loud ALL the time, but it would be nice to see the fans there get more into the power play and get loud during those times rather than thinking up new and creative ways to say “decline the penalty fuck Kompon lolz”. It bothers me that the loudest “Go Kings Go” chants are accompanied by Eric Cartman. Maybe that’s one of the reasons I LOVE to go see the Kings when they’re on the road, like in Anaheim. The hardcores go there. They don’t need to be told to cheer, and the roar after a Kings’ goal is pure and not watered down by a song or whatever. Stuff like this is what it’s all about, to me. I’d love to see spontaneous and sustained cheering at Staples, and sometimes it happens. When it does, I’m only too happy to acknowledge it.

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