Kings @ Colorado – The “Let’s Hope It’s a Hockey Game” Game Thread

So Saturday we saw the championship banner raised, but we were deprived of seeing our first Kings hockey game. We saw something, I just wouldn’t really call it hockey. I could call it several things… hilarious, depressing, spastic, but it didn’t qualify as hockey anymore than several sweaty men dry humping each other qualifies as football.

And that’s OK (not the dry humping, either take off the pads linebackers and go at it or stay home, I say). I’m over it, don’t care.

Tonight I care.

The road is where the Kings need to be to start this abbreviated season. They won the cup based largely off dominant performance away from Staples. The road is where we will hit our stride and coalesce as a cohesive team once more.

What can I say about Colorado? Nothing, really. If you want some vague information about the other team, I hear the LA Kings are smearing copyright violations all over their website courtesy of The Royal Half these days (in all seriousness, how cool is that? Love to see the Kings give us bloggers some credibility and exposure).

I’ll be watching late on DVR, so use this thread to rant, rave, rejoice, bemoan, whatever the hell it is you do when I’m not around.

/quality reporting

GO KINGS GO!

I just saw the news that Matt Greene is out, potentially for the season, with a back injury. So… Fuck. We’ll discuss and digest this fully tomorrow. On the bright side, sounds like Kopitar will be playing. So… Yay?



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  1. So Greene is out for the season I hear. Looks like Muzzin might get another shot.

  2. Muzzin was on the 1st PP unit in practice today, so he’ll get a baptism by fire. His chance to show what he has.
    In the meantime, I wonder if DL is talking to Buffalo or NJ, both are shopping Dman…
    At least Wlllie Mitchell has a full practice today, that’s good.
    Looks like the HOckey gods are testing the Kings, Last year they went almost injury free right thru to the Cup. First time in 30 years a team only used their 6 D, no injuries.

    • I bet Dean is already snooping around for what’s out there.

      • I bet Dean is already snooping around for what’s out there.

        … Perhaps the genius can find a way to hold on to guys like Hickey instead.

        • Hickey never capitalized on ample opportunity. And, the only reason he got claimed is that he was called up to be given yet another chance. As any boss knows: “‘potential’ has a shelf life.”

          But, what about the prospect of getting Vishnovsky’s rights? He seems to like SoCal…..

          • Hickey never capitalized on ample opportunity.

            …. He didn’t GET an opportunity. Nothing “ample” about it.

          • All the time he spent in Manchester was the opportunity to prove himself. Instead Muzzin (same draft class), Martinez (same draft class), Doughty (drafted a year later), and Voynov (drafted a year later) all moved past him in the system. If he’s not playing well enough to keep up then he’s not earning a spot in the NHL.

            The system promotes those who earn it. And, “earning it” is much easier when you’re a 1st rounder as the club desperately wants you to get every possible chance. See the writing of Justin Bourne for a multitude of discussions on this.

            Either there’s a grand conspiracy, or, he wasn’t good enough to crack the roster.

            Let’s see how long he survives with the Isles. Maybe he’ll actually get some TOI ice soon (hasn’t played a minute yet this year — been a healthy scratch for the 1st two games.) It’s the Isles for chrissakes, if he can’t crack that lineup….He’ll enjoy Bridgeport; it’s a wonderful town.

            Same applies to Cliche (he ain’t coming back up unless we’re in the worst possible way) and Clune.

            Deslauriers, Vey, Tiffoli, and Loktionov all need to show they can meet their potential or the same will happen to them. (I will grant that Lokti has basically gotten royally fucked — I think his play merits being here. But, I’m neither coach nor GM…)

            It’s sports Darwinism.

          • Never took you for a Darwinist. More an Episcopalian

          • Once was a papist; now, an atheist.

          • All the time he spent in Manchester was the opportunity to prove himself. Instead Muzzin (same draft class), Martinez (same draft class), Doughty (drafted a year later), and Voynov (drafted a year later) all moved past him in the system. If he’s not playing well enough to keep up then he’s not earning a spot in the NHL.

            … I posted Hickey’s results at Manchester in another thread here; they were very comparable (almost identical) to the results posted by Muzzin and Martinez.

            “earning it” is much easier when you’re a 1st rounder as the club desperately wants you to get every possible chance.

            … If that were actually the case, Hickey would have already spent time in Los Angeles. Again, you’re never going to know what a player can do at the NHL level unless and until that player gets NHL experience.

            Either there’s a grand conspiracy, or, he wasn’t good enough to crack the roster.

            … “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”

            The Kings were just dumb in this case; as they have been in a great many cases. Everyone was ready for Dean Lombardi’s head on a platter before the Kings went on their miraculous run last season. As I also pointed out earlier, it’s not like Dean hasn’t done this before. One wonders why he would even draft a guy like Hickey when he clearly considers size before all other attributes. Perhaps he thought Hickey still had growing to do? Nevertheless, the Kings were wasteful, and when you’re wasteful, it usually doesn’t take long for situations to come along and bite you in the ass. The Kings lived a charmed life during last season’s run to the Cup … it was silly for anyone in the organization to expect that charmed life would go on forever.

          • You can’t keep just saying its because of size when Martinez and Voynov have full time spots they earned and neither are anything special in the size department. But I wouldn’t want anything logical to get in the way of your opinions.

            And the decision to dump hickey being dumb can’t be deemed as such until Hickey’s career plays at out for atleast like, a fucking minute.

          • You can’t keep just saying its because of size when Martinez and Voynov have full time spots they earned and neither are anything special in the size department.

            … Sure I can. Obviously Voynov has a full time spot because he was the best defenseman in Manchester for several years. Not sure why people keep lumping Voynov into the whole Drewiske-Martinez-Muzzin-Hickey discussion when Voynov is better than all four of those guys, and has been for quite some time now.

            Martinez isn’t a big guy relative to NHL defenseman standards, but he’s still bigger than Hickey is. Anyway, that’s not even the point. It wasn’t a mistake to give Martinez or Muzzin or Drewiske their shots. It was a mistake to not also give Hickey a shot when he had done everything the other three guys had done to earn one.

            And the decision to dump hickey being dumb can’t be deemed as such until Hickey’s career plays at out for atleast like, a fucking minute.

            … It’s absolutely dumb for the Kings to do what they did, precisely BECAUSE they didn’t allow Hickey to play for at least a fucking minute. Am I going too fast for you?

          • There aren’t endless spots to take. You keep mentioning Muzzin, as if he had the chance of a lifetime. He played a whopping 11 games two years ago. Its not like there is infinite playing time to be given.

            And Martinez played himself ahead of Hickey, got his shot and ran with it. The Kings were supposed to bench him while he was kicking ass just to give Hickey a look? That’s not how it works. When you play well you don’t lose your spot just so someone else can have a go, it’s not little league.

            And Drewiske is meaningless in this discussion. He fills a completely different role Hickey was never meant to fill. Might as well ask why Toffoli doesn’t play instead of Clifford.

          • You’re not moving too fast for me; but, you’re most definitely racing way past you own ability to both think and accept reality.

            Dutch, what part of “potential has a shelf life” is befuddling you?

            What was it that “they did” that was dumb?

            The waiver exemption expires at the end of a pro’s 4th year. Clearly the expectation is that a player will have developed enough in 4 years to be with the NHL club that drafted him. If not, the League and the NHLPA have agreed (in the form of the CBA) that the player is made available to other teams.

            Exactly who would you have exposed to waivers by sending them to Manchester at the end of training camp: Muzzin, Martinez, Voynov, Drewiske, Doughty, Green, or Scuderi? One of them had to join Bodnarchuk; only Voynov is waiver exempt. Are you going to keep Hickey instead of Voynov? Really, that’s fuckin’ stupid.

            Or, are you going to carry 8 D-men? If so, which forward do you send down? Nolan is the only one waiver eligible.

            Exactly how do you propose that Lombardi could have avoided exposing him to waivers? What was his error?

            Either explain the mistake, proffer an alternative means of doing what you wanted done, or leave Dutchland and join the rest of us folks in the real world.

          • Or, are you going to carry 8 D-men?

            … Why not? I’ve advocated dressing seven defensemen for quite some time now. It never hurts to have a spare.

            If so, which forward do you send down?

            … Why would I send down any of them? I’d ship Fraser out. The Stanley Cup halo effect means nothing to me.

  3. “We saw something, I just wouldn’t really call it hockey. I could call it several things… hilarious, depressing, spastic, but it didn’t qualify as hockey”

    … Uh huh. Tell me more.

    • No see, I gave you my opinion, now you give me yours. That how this works.

      • No see, I gave you my opinion, now you give me yours. That how this works.

        … I did, in the game thread. Since you and I saw different games, I’d like to hear more about the game you saw.

        • I don’t think the Kings got as dominated as the score makes it look. I thought both teams were pretty crappy and both teams were very sloppy. I thought it was a timid game, with only the 4th line playing consistent physically for the Kings. That’s why I said it wasn’t a hockey game, because both teams were out of sync and it just made for stale, boring ho-hum play all the way around. Chicago got the bounces, executed two plays very well and Quick gave up a big softie while Crawford made a huge save in the second to keep the Kings far apart.

          • I like how we’re rewarded with shit for our first games back after the lockout all over the league. Philly was shit, Van was shit, Rangers were shit… It’s been a joke all over.

          • I like how we’re rewarded with shit for our first games back after the lockout all over the league.

            … They had like a week of training camp. What did you expect, frankly? These should be exhibition games.

          • That’s why all of my tweets during the game were #preseason

          • I didn’t say I was surprised. Just pointing it out. I will say Clifford fucking surprised me though. He probably played better than at least 80% of last season’s games.

          • A typical afternoon game in LA. L2 was so completely dominated I thought they were wearing cod pouches instead of cups.

            Not looking forward to Muzzin facing a team as fast as Colorado…sink or swim.

  4. The game was kind of disjointed… and the Richards did not seem to work at all.. but it is only the 1st game… And the Kings could play like that in the reg season last year… one minute they would like brilliant the next you thought another team was in the House… Let us hope they can play the Av’s and Columbus better than they did last year… Get well Soon Matt…. Not a good weekend for the “Matty Ice’s:” of the world… Davis and Muzz cease the moment!!!

  5. Just saw on tsn that it’s expected 2 b 6 weeks whereas initially thought to be for the season. Thread wanfrom Sunday I think so don’t know if that’s changed since yesterday. We should know more soon though. Also DS’s comments gave impression he wasn’t delights w Quicker from opener.

  6. Not so easy to comment w my iPad here. Have to be careful to avoid Typoooo’s

  7. Dammit Hickey…

  8. Hopefully Muzzin works out, I’d like to see Bodnarchuk get a shot.

  9. That’s horrible news if Greene is out. You all talk shit but the guy plays a huge role and is sound enough positionally to get by. Bad news with Willie, and now Matt being out. Hard times on defense. Maybe Andrew Campbell can play that role? I don’t know.

    Watched Jack Johnson playing with Columbus against Detroit. Jack can play man. Why the fuck did they have to give up that 1st round pick as well? Jack for Carter straight up would’ve been the right move. Columbus actually looks solid though. They have a good top 4 defensman and some energy upfront. Crazy shit I’m talking on the Kings blog.

    Go Kings!

    • I only saw the last half of the 3rd period onward. But I saw the same old JMFJ we saw here: give aways in his own zone, poor positioning. There was a goal mouth scramble in front of Bobrovski with 3 Wings whacking at the puck and there was Johnson at the half boards watching it all.

      Even with the Greene injury, I don’t miss him. Too damn many turnovers and lapses.

    • Watched Jack Johnson playing with Columbus against Detroit. Jack can play man.

      … I love the guy, but he’s still shitty on defense. There’s no getting around it.

      • Jack was a + player after he left the Kings. I think + 4 after the deadline last season. He looks better on D now, more confident.

        • … He was actually a +5 in the 21 games he was a Blue Jacket. And, he did play pretty well overall. It’s a small sample of games, though.

          I don’t think that he’ll ever be quite as bad defensively for Columbus as he was here. I do think it’s reasonable to say his confidence is much higher. He’s entering his prime years. He wears a letter on his sweater there, and he gets loads of ice time. I’m happy for him.

          In the game against Detroit, I saw a few of the same defensive lapses I’d become accustomed to seeing from him over the years. But a lot of guys in the league have struggled out of the gate. We’ll just have to wait and see on this one, I suppose.

  10. Loktionov for Fayne (NJD). Through in Gagne if you must (but then get a pick or prospect back too.)

    Anything better that you can think of out there?

  11. Run Gagne Carter and Penner as the second line.
    Put Mike Richards on defense.

  12. Looks like a hockey game to me.

  13. The second line with Carter, Richard and Penner are totally out of sync. They ‘re struggling with knowing what to do with the puck and find each other. Hope it doesn’t continue for very long.

  14. Quick is on his game. Couple of key saves during the 5-3 and 5-4. Gotta love it

  15. Yeah Quick is gaining back his comfort. 1st line is OK. 2nd line isnt great, though Penner looks like he has some energy. Richards are Carter seem ineffective. Too much partying. 3rd looks good, and 4th is holding. D is ok, for missing 2 of our most important players. Really glad to see Kopi back but I want him to dominate and he doesn’t quite have it yet. I assume it’s playing with different players after the KHL.

  16. I wish Richards & Carter weren’t scratched tonight. Oh, they’re not? I couldn’t tell. Talk about disappearing faster than whiskey at my house. And what’s up with Gagne being a healthy scratch?

  17. Penner with 2 stoooopid penalties. Dustin, enjoy the press box. Please don’t eat all the hotdogs — their for the media.

  18. Penner stripped of the puck…a 3rd goal against. Fuck the press box. Package him with Gagne in a trade for an experienced D-man.

    What the hell is it going to take for the first 2 lines to actually bury the damn puck? The 4th line can’t be expected to carry the team forever.

  19. Bitter Beer Face might have more patience than I have, but when a top line becomes a liability rather than a opportunity; time to stir the nest. Richard’s been a non factor, Carter skating faster than the puck and Penner’s wondering why he’s stuck between these two flapjacks.

  20. PowerPlay seems to have a Murray/Kompon Hangover. A lack of camp and time together, I suppose.

    Still relying on DD to wind up (and thus telegraph) for a big one timer into a bunch of legs in front of the net.

    Hopefully time together will rectify that.

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